100% agree
Agree with every goddam single word you said there, mate.
Iām with you on the sounds in theory but to be honest Iāve never even listened too them or tried to delete them, I have my libraries on external drives. stuff like that, the splice functions, and the internal plugins I just pay no mind⦠as far as boot time have you tried making your own templates, it has saved me quite a bit of time and you can go as deep as you want with them as far as being already ready for whatever kind of composition youāre about to get intoā¦
Iāve always looked at the definition of mangling to be the end result, I have a deluge and a few of the elektron boxes but not an octatrack so I definitely understand that there is no comparison to elektron (yet) when it comes to realtime happy accidents but when Iām on the mpc Iām going for something much more deliberate
I really think the elektron boxes I have and the mpcs make great companions though as I use the mpc to capture most of what Iām doing on the elektrons and they work really well together.
I have a different impression but then again Iāve been using them for a long time so the differences in the latest crop to the earlier versions is less of an issue for meā¦
there are other long time users who miss this legacy feature or that legacy feature but to be honest the core is still In tact⦠however the mixing and Fx that you speak of is light years better than the previous models and Roger linn had no special mixing or FX sauce to speak of. the core workflow that makes an mpc an mpc hasnāt changed and you can move across tracks and sequence just as quick as everā¦
if you wanted to say only have a majority previous model experience and completely leave all of the other stuff alone one could easily do it⦠just donāt go there the wonderful thing about it is that everything is very compartmentalized⦠anything that you feel might get in the way is literally a button press away that you donāt have to make and minus some legacy features you can emulate any earlier model that youād like in workflow for the most part⦠for example in the rytm you are always aware of the drum synth⦠even though I am looking forward to the drum synth that is coming to the mpc I already know that it will be completely out of the way unless I want to see it, like the other plugins, I love that.
one of the very cool things that Is new that I like allot is that itās lightening quick to convert a sequence into audio now⦠we didnāt have that in the past in the same way , itās very flexible and very useful.
this is something Iām glad to hear as the octatrack is still on my list, Iām just waiting to see what they do next first⦠the Digitakt, model samples and cycles is holding me down until thenā¦
I hear you! Digitakt, M:S and M:C are all great devices. The Octatrack I think is quite timeless, unless of course Elektron surprises us all with a v2, which I assume is quite unlikely though
If you do decide to go for one, Iād recommend the Mk 2, the extra buttons make it much easier to handle from the get go than the Mk1
Iām on the pre-order list for an MPC-One, currently Iām 95% certain Iāll purchase. What Iām most excited about is an arranger w/ velocity sensitive pads that will play well with external gear. Sorry but Elektron does not have good velocity pads, as a drummer this is an important thing.
Yeah the MPC presets look busy (had the same gripe with the TR-8S but you just make your own and carry on)
Yeah the plug-in synths seem bland (but again if youāre triggering Nords and Moogs itās no biggie).
I sold all of my Elektron gear (OT2/DT/DN) except model:Cycles, also ditched the blackbox.
I like to overdub perform my sequences rather than program and MPCs seem to really excel at this.
Keeping my Deluge but it doesnāt really have the same nuanced mastering/mixing tools to produce a DAWālike track, you get something else, itās own Deluge vibe (which can be super-cool but sound wise not necessarily versatile).
Form factor and price is excellent for MPC One, canāt wait to feed it stuff and send messages to other stuff (like MFBās and Isla s2400).
wow, I sold my digitakt once and regretted it before I even got the cash in my hands lol⦠had to get another one. I love the mpc as a centerpiece and hardware hub though, it just makes sense
I sold Digitakt twice. Itās an incredible box but my sequences sounded uninspired, just technical.
Selling the OT and DN was more painful to me.
Kept Cycles because I do love Elektron sequencer just not as my bread and butter.
I hear you Elektron stuff is so wonderfully fascinating and addicting I will most certainly purchase their products again in the future.
Right now though Iām focused on MPC One and that new 2.8 firmware. I can smell the wave of hits coming lol
The pads are real joy to use. Granted I own the Live but Iām sure the One will be of similar quality. I donāt know why but I always get the most musical and natural feeling when playing the MPC pads. I canāt seem to match it with any other device. Maybe the next best thing is the Push 2, I just prefer the 4x4 grid a little more.
I like their channel a lot, but this review is misleading, in my opinion. Probably he is biased towards the DT or he doesnāt know the MPC or both.
I find the Digitakt immediacy but simplicity vs MPC daw in an ipad-faced box a fair point of view.
Which is sort of what he is saying.
Thatās what puts me off the MPC - its being a hybrid is offputting. I like that the Digitakt is firmly at the tactile instrument end of the spectrum, rather than offering a sophisticated framework of endless menus, options and touchscreen interaction, which seems more detached and less immediate.
I donāt have the newer MPC, but have been interested in the Live since it was launched, being an ex 1000 with JJ and even got the tilted screen etc, and still have a 500.
If I was to sell all my little boxes and ipad and replace it with one thing, then MPC One/Live is a clear choice. But thatās never going to happen
Yes, for sure. Like a Motorola Microtac is simpler and faster than an iphone, if you have to make a call.
With the MPC you can load few samples or a kit and make a track in minutes, just like the digitakt.
Then you can do 100ās of other things the DT simply canāt.
Personally speaking the DT is the only Elektron I sent back to the seller after 2 days. Very limited and overpriced in my opinion.
I sometimes wonder what the reaction would be if they released something without a huge touchscreen more akin to the 1000 etc. Iād personally kill for a 1k with upgraded usb/faster loads etc but I bet people would absolutely chew Akai up if they did it. I do long for the old style screens. I totally dig that about DT but Iām just coming to terms with the fact music is easier for me to produce on basically anything but a step sequencer
Same could be said in reverse. Each instrument has its pros and cons. Each valid in their own way.
Well, I just picked one of these up third-hand (! Not a good sign, hah). Looking forward to putting it through its paces.
a third hand mpc one?.. hope you are able to return it if it is faulty cause from what I can tell there is a big demand for them even after the Live mk2, are they even widely available again yet?
Iāve actually cancelled my review on the One. After I finished my first draft, I felt I just donāt get it. Someone who does, should better write about this thing, be fair and do it proper.
As far as mobility was concerned, though, it seems to be the better choice. I used it with a Ripcord and a battery all the time, certainly no big trade-off if thatās a big deal and the Liveās more appealing because of it.