AKAI Force

Yeah, the MX-1’s analog inputs are noisy AF, but you can adjust the gain on the Aira inputs from the MX-1. They’re fairly clean/silent as far as noise.

The name alone shows it means business.

Thanks very much for digging that info up for us!

Yes I suspected as much. I asked a friend of mine who does FPGA and chip design, who also is an electronic musician, about this topic too - the question about whether it’s plausible for the Force to have some firmware update that might enable 48kHz operation.

His opinion is that its potentially possible but could be a nightmare to implement because of all the knock-on effects to buffer sizes, resource management and parameters in the code and interface. So I’d not expect Akai are likely to make this happen unfortunately.

Very plausible argument here & agree, at least for this hardware iteration — most unlikely.

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Your friend is correct. Also, Akai themselves have already confirmed that they tried 48 KHz on both MPC and Force for external audio interface support and discovered it was too CPU heavy, so only 44.1 KHz was developed. There is ZERO chance they’ll go back and rewrite MPC3 to support it on current hardware. And I doubt they’ll support it on new.

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Thanks for sharing and clarifying.

Is this speculative or scratching the Beta-NDA? I haven’t seen AKAI announcing these features to come — might have missed it, though. Otherwise, it’s easy to guess that the Force OS will catch up with the MPC OS + yeah, Force specifics.

:wink: :rofl:

More sound design videos by Snowmetal:

Says the guy directly linking Beta Group posts outside of Beta Land… :rofl: :joy:

Regarding Force and MPC reaching parity, MPC3 brought features that Force had for over a year.

As a Force user, it would be nice to get some of those MPC specific goodies, so I’m waiting with bated breath like everyone else.

Nah - I ain’t waiting… I’ve been making music.

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Sorry for that, this actually slipped through my awareness — I was under the presumption that this part of the forum was belonging to the public one & edited the link out already.

It wasn’t my intention to link to sensitive information either, as this topic dated back to 2022.

Then, it’s all gonna get its clarification at some point in the near future.

If someone is posting actual beta forum links, then they clearly have access to the beta - and would know everything that’s coming. So…

It looks like Akai fixed the Insert Effects parameters not being mapped to Q-Links in Sampler mode bug on the MPC (version 3.4.3) just as I ran into the issue on the Force. :rofl:

Hopefully it will be fixed soon on the Force as well.

And thank you to all who responded regarding the audio interface question!

That bug has been on the Force for years. I’m happy to know Akai fixed it for the MPC. So there’s hope for the Force.

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Maybe they really did bring the Force OS to MPC OS 3 - including the bugs! :laughing:

Yup, & the lack of other time-sigs.

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Just got a chance to start using the Force. (They are becoming cheap here, for whatever reason.) What a great instrument. Sounds good, runs the instrument plugs, and it’s got the UI that the Akai engine deserves, with all the knobs and buttons with the little OLED screens. I don’t really care if it ever gets the ability to use the NI stuff, although hopefully it will eventually have an easier way to set time signature; for now the workaround is fine, I can get a bar of 5 when I need it.

One whinge tho … What species of creature is this size and layout designed for? The touchscreen is flat, but the little OLEDS are angled—so as soon as I put the thing on an angled stand (which is necessary to reach everything) the OLEDS end up in an odd position. And why put the volume knobs and the SD card on the front, in the corner and close to the ground—exactly where a lot of generic stands are going to make contact? Luckily I had a laptop stand free that grabbed the Force in the right places—but putting the card and volume knobs where they are seems strange.

I’ve always been convinced that Yamaha synths were designed by extraterrestrials, and now it looks like Akai has also been … infiltrated.

But whinge over, I really love this thing. The interface feels so different from the MPC Live (which I also like, as an MPC, replaced the 4000 for me). I experience the Force and Live as two different tools, at least for finger drummers like myself.

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Best time to get a Force since it’s about to get a major update. I totally agree that the design is strange to put it nicely.

A tilting screen should’ve been mandatory. The 8 knobs with their screens is great compromise between the other MPCs & the X. They make the marcos more efficient to use. I don’t like all those buttons bunched up on the left.

Another set of audio inputs & outs would be great as a standard. Currently its kinda forcing you to get a audio interface. I hope a new model fixes these issues.

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Snowmetal keeps giving out free gold.

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And the amazing thing is - he isn’t even using the updated Advanced Keygroups XL synth engine yet! Wonder if he has an MPC that he can play with MPC3 on?

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