As crazy as it sounds, Akai made no facility for Force to change tempo on its own.
So unless you count the workaround Poetic Noise suggested, bouncing the different tempo sections to WAV, disabling warp, and just triggering them to play,
OR
keeping everything MIDI and clocking it to something else that has tempo change abilities
OR
just using something else
The sky is falling, it’s Akai’s fault, and we all should boycott… nah. Ignore this last bit - I’m just being melodramatic.
It like they made the Force so good they had to leave out some essential feature features almost forcing us to buy the mk2 & there better be a mk2 or else my world is over:sob:… not really, just wanted to test out my melodramatic muscles, too. 2024 may be the year for a new Force: 24=2nd Force 
…just kidding, but I might as while test out my conspiracy theory muscles also.
so noone put custom arps on their Force?
Custom progressions yes.
Custom arps courtesy of BSP & OT in my setup
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I certainly felt pickpocketed when I opened that box
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I usually make one song pr project. But i have started to put together a liveset. And i always have a sort of break between songs. Like a pad or atmospheric thing going with some effects. Then i just manually adjust the tempo. I have prepared the next tract to be in the tempo i want. With macros i have alot of stuff set up for helping with transitions anyway.
Since i mostly use external synths, i always need to change things to make a liveset that is realistically possible to do outside of the studio anyway, so i dont feel the tempo thing is that big of a limitation in practise.
If people can work around the tempo issue, fair enough. Personally I can’t.
With the Push 3 it’s easy to do/prep tempo changes ‘offline’ in Ableton… you can even use transition scenes to vari speed/tempo from one to the next… which brings me to the point;
Push 2 has Ableton Live, MPC’s have MPC Software… Force has nothing.
Is this not the big gap/elephant with the Force’s development and evolution?
I really like the Force software in the device… why wouldn’t Akai make this software available on desktop for offline work? They must have a lot of the dev work done already with MPC Software (and the Force internal OS)?
If I knew I could create tempo changes in Force desktop and send it back to the Force for standalone, it would suddenly challenge Ableton again IMO.
I don’t really use arpeggiators in my music, so it’s a no for me.
That’s another workaround, but it doesn’t solve the overall limitations of no built-in tempo changes.
Also the Mockba Mod has multiple set of Arranger each with 128 tracks we only got 1 currently & with have thier own tempo, that open up many possibilities. Now what I need to is if there are multiple set of clip views to go with each Arranger or do all Arranger share 1 clip matrix? Either way is better than what we got now.
If you watch the video I posted earlier you’ll see that both the “sequence chains” (thus tempo chain) and “multi-sequences” are already there in the AKAI Force OS. But they can’t be accessed without hacking the Force.
Cool, that gives me some hope that Force desktop software might still happen, as that would probably be the best place to access/edit those functions.
Even though I have a Push 3, I haven’t given up hope for the Force as there’s so much about it that I really like.
Thinking about switching from the MPC one over to the Force.
Mainly looking to use a umc1820 to record in one synth at a time into the arranger mode. Like do record a few takes of the same progression and place it along the arranger.
One thing I’ve seen come up is that you can’t explode a drum track in the force. Is that right? I’d like to be able to export and finish it off in ableton.
I know there will be a delay with the input on the soundcard. I’ve got around it with using a sample delay on the drum program but without drum explode I’d have to do it on each individual drum track?
Do I have that right? Is there something I’m missing with this kinda set up
By Watermark High
I like how he went deep in on all of the parameters:
00:00 Intro 01:29 Global Controls 04:03 Pitch Effect / Module 07:09 Distortion Effect / Module 08:59 Digital Effect / Module 11:55 Vinyl Effect / Module 13:33 Volume Effect / Module 15:02 Timbre Effect / Module 15:45 Outro
I made a list of all the Force Macro videos I could find. If you find others please add it here or to the list in the link;
https://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=216161
Ah great idea thanks for putting that list together. I love seeing how other people use the macros function. So many possibilities!
I feel the same way & I also know how they can be overwhelming at first because of all those many possibilities, especially coming from the new gen MPC’s, since the Force macros are more advanced so making that thread seemed like the logical thing to do. I’m glad you got some use out of it.
Peace & may the mother-fuckin’ Force be with you!
Quick question…I"m dumb.
If I have my something like the Befaco 4x4 USB audio Interface Module in my skiff and plug the USB out from that into the Force USB OR I assume into a USB hub, I then can set up 4 audio channels in the Force in the mixer page to bring in the audio from the 4 inputs in the Befaco so I can control those sounds with the Force being the mixer and hear it all out from the Force. AND, of course can set up audio channels to record any of those inputs…is that how it all works with the USB Audio on the Force???
Thanks.
Basically, the audio interface replaces the Force audio in/outs/headphones & becomes the Force audio in/outputs. So however you could use the Force ports before, you can now use the interface ports like that.
Uh…ok…I understand that but…the audio from 4 osciallators goes into the Befaco and then over USB the sound moves to the Force and on the Force I would see 4 different channels of audio coming into the force and on the force I then can use the mixer page to lower/raise the channels of audio coming in from my modular. What about the sound from the Force then??? I’m not plugging the audio out from the force into the Befaco. So confusing.
What happens when you try?
Force sound should come from the Befaco to whichever Befaco output you specify.
Force and Befaco MIDI I/O are added together cumulatively.
Force & Befaco Audio I/O replace one another.
One or the other for AUDIO, not both.
I have not bought it yet…that’s why I was asking. I decided to just get a Livetrak L8 and connect my EURO to those inputs and USB to the Force. I always end up selling my modular stuff so would need a normal mixer anyhow…sold the bluebox.