What is this project? Sounds interesting
Your experience means nothing to me, you could be the worst person in the world at your job.
I go by the fact that most companies donāt do as you describe. I guess that means all those companies and all their employees are wrong, and you are right.
Guess you should be joining the beta test team and teaching them how to do it right. Nothings stopping you from doing that, they obviously are a bunch of hacks and would benefit from your years of experience. Whatās stopping you from setting them straight?
Complaining on the internet wonāt help them from being so bad at their jobs. You could be a great resource and teach them.
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Uh, what ever I hit there, I am sorry that I seem to triggered something. Didnāt wanted to offend anyone. But its sad that most of the companies you know have such problems in their development process 
Lets continue Force here, as this gets a little off topic.
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This is Instrumap: Instrumap. It is all about creating keygroups from folders of multisamples. Itās not perfect but itās fast and mostly painless.
The other project doesnāt have a page yet. Iāll take a shot at making progress on the long weekend.
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I really think this app is pretty cool - youāve got something useful on your hands! The only thing keeping me from using/buying is it doesnāt do actual pitch detection. Often Iāll have a folder of samples that donāt have key information in the sample name. Any chance you can get a decent pitch analysis algorithm in there?
So?
Well, what we do know is that the same dev team is responsible for the Force as well as the MPC, and they split their time between those two as well as other products in the InMusic line-up. How many Product Managers there are remains a mystery, though. We have no idea if the same Product Manager is responsible for the MPC line as well as Force (likely).
If you think Akai/Air/InMusic is bad at keeping users āupdatedā, Iād like to submit to you the fact that Propellerhead (now Reason Studios) were even more tight lipped for almost 2 decades. Itās literally only been the last 6-8 months that they started publishing a public road map, and even then - itās a āplanā, not a promise. If Akai did the same thing, I can only imagine the user rage when they donāt hit their plan goals by a specific date, or ever.
Thereās a reason why they do things the way they do. If that process stops working, then youāll see them change things up. Until then, buckle up and enjoy the ride. Or not.
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And we got free updates! I would also pay 50 ā¬ for the streaming capability (mpc), and another 50 if they manage an arranger (mpc), and make the computer sw compatible with the force.
SW developnent in the linux universe is not simple, it evolves so quick, its a moving target, where you have to cimpensate for updates in libary, ui etc.
Instrumap is brilliant, Iāv bought it a while ago and had good contact with the developer. Hope all will be better for you soon Mark @Macbutch
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Is he sick or something? 
*Edit: never mind - I see that heās having a rough year at the day job. Welcome to the club, friend! 
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Purchased Instrumap, and added a little extra (not a ton unfortunately) because my day job has sucked this year too. Thanks for the response and cool app.
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Thanks for your support. Things will have to get better at some point. Hope you get some good use from Instrumap.
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Update on my attempts to find a new setup with the Force at the centre: tonight I gave my Zoom R16 a proper chance as an interface.
The R16 has always been a bit of a failed purchase for me - as a standalone device itās good for capturing stuff like modular sessions, but the lack of any kind of sync makes it pretty hopeless as a multitrack (although you can actually sync it to modular using the metronome).
But! Connect it to the Force and activate the 32 input option, and it works as an 8-input interface. So I hooked up an MC-707 and Analog Four, and my modular, and assigned those to five separate audio tracks in the arranger, splitting the left and right audio inputs for an extra stress test (normally theyād be paired to one stereo track).
Worked a charm! All five tracks recording, no clicks or pops. I doubt Iāll ever need to record that many tracks at the same time (or I could just record directly to the R16). But a couple of devices being reliably recorded live alongside programmed Force tracks is exactly what I was hoping for.
The R16 hardware controls are also mappable, so I was able to link the faders to the channels (including stereo links across two inputs) and the master volume, as a bonus - and of course I can also assign input and track FX on the Force during / after recording, which compensates for not having the send & return loop from my usual mixer (thatās the major loss for me, not much scope for external FX - but if this setup works out, I might add a patchbay).
The R16 is still selling for over Ā£300 new, so itās not really a cheap solution - but if you already have one lying around like I did, or can find a second-hand deal, it seems like a definite winner so far. Now I just have to decide how to divide up the eight inputs.
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Pitch detection is a maybe. To be honest I havenāt really looked into it - the main issue is that pitch detection will be relatively very slow. Iāll have to try it out and see.
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All you software development geniuses of this thread. 
I have been talking about lack of developments or updates about the Instrumap app.
Someone literally even pointed that out after my post.
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Yeah. Shocking how the need to be right about something (anything probably) eclipses any desire to even know what the subject is.
Decided to pick up an Oxi One to clock to my Force to create some generative stuff in it.
Plan is to clock Oxi to Force, and then with multitrack mode (awesome feature), record the Oxi sequences and Chord/harm modes into the Force clips.
I believe it will really expand the sequencing functionality of the Force.
Yikes! Those are likeā¦ $632 USD currently. Let us know how it works out for you. If Force (eventually) gets the features weāve seen coming in MPC 2.11, the randomization and ratcheting will satisfy all I really need for generative stuff.
Iāve heard that Zoomās USB Class Compliance implementation is super solid and works well with Force and MPC. Great to hear the R16 is working solid for you!
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Seems to be the case! I had some pops using the MC-707 as just a stereo interface (though I didnāt spend a great deal of time trying to solve it), so five simulatenous inputs coming through perfectly was definitely nice to see. I was a bit sceptical as Zoomās docs are very clear that you need to install their driver - so I was anticipating just a stereo class compliant connection. If I can unplug the Force and cram the same connection straight into my iPad when I want to, even better.