say im already running my AR thru an AD - any benefit in getting an AH for master?
Analog Drive is mono-only. How do you have it wired up with the AR? The Analog Heat is stereo and has an envelope follower, so can add some compression (or expansion). Also the circuit options are different between the two.
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Pseudo compressor, as mentioned in the manual. AR has a much better one.
2ADs are stereo. 
@r4v3r23 what about individual AR outputs going to a mixer with AD send/return > AR inputs (just before compressor)?
Eventually mixer > 2 ADs > AR
Yes there is, Heat makes your mix more “glued” together as well as adds “weight” that is if you don’t go crazy with the settings and preferably use 1 of the first 3 circuits.
Heat on the master and Drive on whatever you want to is awesome.
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@r4v3r23 already have an AD and said to me he’s “really after an aggressive distorted sound”. I think AH is much softer, as if there were a limiter on inputs.
Basic test with default AR kit.
AR BD + CH/OH > Mixer > Send AD > Return > AR inputs.
Messing around with AD (mid freq, character) and mixer (eq, fx send), without touching AR. You can’t have that result with AH.
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@r4v3r23 told me it was too much! 
Nev3rmind. I think AH is limited in harsh distortion concern. Or proove I’m wrong!
Can you send me the Loop used in the demo. I would like to do some tests with the AH.
Yeah, why not. But to be clear and fair, with AR MKI ? I know you have different Elektrons machines, not sure which one would be the best for a fair comparison.
Same machine, same project, same Master Volume.
I can also record a basic sample as reference, eventually trying to add some tuned sounds, at a moment…
Just send me the dry loop (I mean without AD) that you posted (if you have it). I don’t want to prove you’re wrong, I’m just curious. I have AR mk2.
The beginning is dry. I can post it. Levels may differ.
I know those comparisons are tricky when it comes to Distortion and you don’t have the same references.
Send me the whole file. I will loop the dry part and use the rest to compare.
5MB limitation…I mean in 48khz 24 bit, otherwise you already can download the 192kbit MP3 for the whole file! 
You had an AH that you swapped for a DN, right? So you have memories of what AH can or can’t do.
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Yes! 
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But I found AH limited for hardcorish drums dutties…
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Even with High Gain Circuit and Dirt?
After maybe 2 years with AH and 20 years of metal guitar pedals experience believe me I tried the all sickest settings I could ! 
Max input didn’t help. AH > AD was interesting.
Hoping this 1 bar loop is ok. I’d have to use it myself for a fair comparison.
AR Cleared kit without mod, at first! Anyway if it sounds better I’ll say it’s because you have an MKII. 
Hopping the loop is ok…Could have been twice shorter, musically the same!
It has already some AR Amp overdrive.
Edit : Forgot to mention, 160 bpm !
Ah, and the snare wasn’t affected by mixer+ AD, so it can’t be the same anyway.
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So it’s a 48-24 sample. Does AR can take it? Does it have a kind of conversion system like OT?
After some testing with AH, I must admit that AD is better at bringing harshness to the Drums. That Mid Freq Parameter seems to bring a special treatment to the Sound too. Thank you for taking the time.
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