Ableton Move : User Thread

Many things can be improved in terms of sampling & editing samples:

  • mono sampling
  • changing parameters for all samples at once (for anyone chopping samples, this is essential
  • pre-defined sample length (in steps/bars). It‘s now somewhat possible by audio-track workaround, but would be nice to have in normal samples
  • Having SIMPLER instead of drum sampler would make things better

It‘s a great device, but there is more potential, as Move Everything has proven. But of course native Ableton compatibility would be even nicer.

And CC control would just make it a better addition to any setup, rather than just be its own thing.

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I am thinking about connecting Novation Peak to Move to Digitakt 2.
What I am thinking is that then I can jam on the Peak and listen through the DT2, then when I like something, record and loop on the Move, then change patch and play something else.
Will this work? Does it track live even without recording a loop?

Using the move here very much as intended and loving it.

I got into making electronic music over 20 years ago after 5 years learning to play guitar. Back then I made tracks with very interesting patterns, melodies and movements. The more I got into the sound design and production side, the less effort I found myself putting into the composition over time. Move is acting as a gym for me to build up the care free composition and I’m loving it.

My aim at the moment is to fill up every set with a different idea, then everyday I listen to them all and delete sets that don’t offer something unique or inspiring and then fill in the gaps with something new. Had it about 3 weeks and already making some of the most interesting beats I have done for years. Seems like I’m drawn to a lot of Baile and dancehall rhythms recently, but with like a harder electro edge.

I haven’t opened Ableton since I got the move, but when I do I know it will be very deliberate with a goal of tuning, producing, trimming and converting to full tracks and live performances. No messin’!

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That’s a great plan!! I may take that as a play for my playbook. I tend to sort of hold a couple of sets and really hash them out until I’m either happy or unhappy with them and then move on. Doing lots of stuff a little faster and seeing what I end up may be a better idea.

I’m also loving Move as a studio tool. Tons of great sounding presets and a chain of four possible audio effects is giving me tons of quick options. I had a studio session today and laid down a bunch of synth ideas, all from Move, completely ignoring the sequencer and sampler sections. The sound quality for a portable device is just phenomenal. We are living in amazing times for gear.

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One of the main reason I think there aren’t many live jams on Youtube is that the workflow is kind of disjointed - you can riff away on a theme (whether rhymically or melodically) and then to change the sequence you need to get out of that mode and quickly trigger between 1 and 4 clip buttons right at the correct time, and then flip back into note mode, and that’s without performing any track or patch changes. It’s more feasible with an external midi controller plugged in (looking forward to grabbing a Keystep 37 Mk2 for this very purpose).

It’s not bad per-se, just not particularly smooth or filmic, and yes, once tracks are developing it really does just make me feel that I can do things faster in Ableton.

Still - I get far more ideas out of mine than my old Push 2 (never gelled with it). The form factor is perfect.

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My no.1 request for Move for quite some time is a simpler Simpler with (up to) 16 slices. It just feels that would be perfect sat in a drum rack, which I could then use to chop up samples.

Other than that, to be able to map devices to an extra controller would be great. But I think to turn Move into a jam device, there would have to be more Master effects.

I wonder if they could create a rack with a punch in effects type ethos, where the specific effects slot is switched on as it’s punched in. Thus saving CPU?

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My Move is arriving tomorrow (hopefully) and I have basic workflow question for people using Move Everything synths. Since it’s not transferable to Ableton, you basically resample whatever you do in Move Everything synths then open in Ableton as audio tracks?

There’s a dedicated Schwung (new name) thread here Ableton Move: Schwung (formerly Move Everything) (Custom synths and FX)

But yes, resample or record out. Think of it as just more outboard gear invisibly stuffed inside the Move.

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Can anyone confirm if it works this? Reason I can’t test myself is because I don’t have TRS minijack to 2xts jack :sweat_smile: don’t wanna spend the money just to find that you can’t do it.

I’m not sure I understand what you want to do?

Are you asking if you can monitor audio through Move before recording? Yes you can do that, but it’s not totally clear what you’re asking.

Lately I’ve been digging a bit deeper into the drum fx and these are seriously dope. You can radically transform the random drum kit given to you when creating a new set! FM assigned to velocity + note repeat while varying the pressure gives all sorts of madness, and Loop makes a pretty good delay on percussive sounds if you want to use the send for reverb.

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can you elaborate on “FM assigned to velocity + note repeat while varying the pressure”

I just get FM Amount & FM Frequency on the last to dials…
how do you assign it to something?

You have to go to the second page of parameters (highlight the sample icon, then shift + turn the jogwheel). There, you can assign stuff to velocity, including drum fx parameters 1 and 2.

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Yeah, monitoring, then start recording loop, stop recording loop, loop starts looping and you are still monitoring.
That’s petty dope though. Looking forward to what I can do with the Peak or DFAM that goes to Move inputs and Move outputs goes to DT2!

ooooh, splendid! I always forget about those second pages… thanks!

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Actually not quite. You can make an audio track, hit the record button to arm and turn on monitoring on that screen and you can hear the input. But once you record something it mutes the input. If you have another empty audio track already set up with monitoring turned on you can switch to that track and keep playing. Not the ideal setup but it’s workable.

edit: I may not be on the latest beta and it looks like there have been some changes to monitoring so this info might be wrong. “A new entry in the settings menu allows users to select a fixed monitoring track. If set, audio input is always monitored through that tracks’ effects if it is an audio track, or without effects if the fixed track is a MIDI track.”

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Won’t be too much of a hassle to arm a new track for me anyways, but cool thing in the beta as well. I just feel this device has so much momentum and is definitely going in the right direction!

And thanks for the answer! Cables are ordered!

I’ve been playing around with doing this, monitoring and applying fx to the DTII audio on a Move audio track. It works pretty well and being able to record a loop in sync and immediately switch from monitoring to playing the loop is actually really useful for transitions between songs.

However I think there’s a bug in the beta firmware and every now and then I can’t get the audio input monitoring to work. It seems to be after a power cycle. What seems to fix it is to unplug the input jack and plug it in again.

It might be user error though, I’m still really new to my Move. It’s possible that Schwung (Move Everything) is interfering and causing it too.

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