Ableton Move : User Thread

The Move also has USB audio

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I got a very similar reply to @Brockstar about the cover over the power button and I was also told that they expect the cover to be available around the 23rd of January.

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I really like Move as a controller for live. Just realised you can p-lock midi note length with the jog wheel.

so you can select tracks, add new midi clips, adjust their length up to 16 bars or something, step sequence, p-lock note length & (currently) 8 parameters. navigate track devices & adjust up to 8 parameters per device. mute tracks, undo, midi capture.

I might be missing a few things, but not bad at all. hopefully more integration is on the cards.

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anyone know can you p-lock velocity & chance in controller mode?

Nicely done! I think @Rivanni deserves a commission from Decksaver for spotting that design flaw

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I’m 99.99% certain you can do velocity. But from memory, you can’t do chance. If no one else confirms, I’ll check it after breakfast.

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yea you’re right, there’s no probability on Move thus far. checked it standalone last night. can p-lock velocity standalone. I’ll check it in controller today too :slight_smile:

Took me longer than I thought to get to it. But you can p-lock velocity in controller mode but no way to control chance (yet),

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After weeks of back and forth with Ableton support (most of which was them asking me to do troubleshooting steps I had already mentioned that I tried in my initial support ticket) we finally stumbled on something that worked.

I had to use my router’s web interface to look up the Move’s IP address and use that directly to access Move Manager on my phone. Just http://IP ADDRESS/ did the trick.

They never told me why the normal Move Manager URL doesn’t work properly on my mobile device, but in case anybody else runs into the same issue I did I just wanted to drop an update with this workaround.

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so you can P-lock macro parameters on the instrument you’re using? how does it work?

Hold step, turn knob

It changes the param just for that step (Elektron style)

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This is nit-picking but since there are a lot of Elektronauts (literally) here, I thought I’d point out that it’s not quite Elektron-style since, after the p-locked step has been played, it will revert back to whichever state that parameter was on when the p-lock was programmed. Meaning, unlike Elektron boxes, where you can keep the “unlocked” parameter state completely independent from the p-locks, on the Move, as soon as you add one p-lock, you also lock the default state for that parameter for all other steps.

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Are you sure?

Edit: oh I see what you mean. You are correct.

Hmm but that seems completely pointless then? I don’t quite understand. I thought the p locking would just create an automation lane. (I don’t have a Moveyet so apologise my ignorance)

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i don’t understand djst’s post above. setting a parameter lock locks the whole sequence? that sounds bad.

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I just tested it because my memory of how it happens is foggy. It locks it for the duration of the pattern. Lets say you have a synth pad playing and the default cutoff value is 60%. You P-lock step 8 so the cutoff is 75%. Now the cutoff is 75% unless you put another P-lock immediately after to return it to its previous value. This lasts until the pattern loops, at which point the P-locked value will return to its default state.

It’s not ideal for standalone use but I’m guessing it’s actually creating an automation lane? I haven’t moved a project from Move to Ableton yet to confirm this, but this is how automation clips work in Ableton if you loop a section.

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I guess it’s not that bad if you can create another P lock afterwards. I can see how I could make it work. But I thought we were talking about the Move as a controller, Im surprised p locks also work this way on the standalone mode.

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Oh sorry, I completely forgot about that context! It’s a busy morning (contrary to what my posting here might indicate. I’m procrastinating).

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As far as I know, that’s how “p-locks” work on Push and thus Live too. Meaning, it really is just an automation lane with a specific square-shaped parameter value at the step you lock it to. So just like automation lanes in Live, once you have recorded some automation, you’ve also locked in a default state for that parameter - for that pattern at least (or in the entire Arrangement view if/when you’re on that side of things).

Compare that with Elektron, where the default state is still free-floating and can be manipulated live as you’re jamming/performing, but the p-locks are locked to those specific steps, hence the word I think.

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Move’s p-locks seem just like elektron p-locks to me. I notice no difference in use 🤷