Ableton Move [Archived]

[benway]

I haven’t messed with it too much because a lot of my templates are already set up with simplers and I haven’t updated them while it’s all still in beta, but for drum sampler afaik no. I think this is a max limitation, same thing affects Granulator in terms of being able to drop a file into it while in standalone - I know drum sampler has been wrapped as an Ableton device but it only appeared in the 12.1 beta and still seems pretty close to a max device. Granulator has been hacked to allow this but seems kinda janky to me.

Seems like Catch plus effects is about the closest you’ll get if you want to sample directly into a drum rack as things stand, it seems like you could also set up an instance in an audio track, sample into it, then just select that sample on the instance in the drum rack.

[schoolbabyboy]

i would hope Ableton knows better than to try to fly that close to the sun…

[Ulysses]

I almost read Octa 8 Move on the poster. I need coffee.

[Michael_R_Grant]

Or maybe they’re expanding it precisely because there will be compatibility between it and Move, and so development on it needs to become more aggressive.

[tyrnnsrs]

I don’t think they would hype this thing up as much as they are unless it was a product that appealed more to the masses. For it to be something more niche wouldn’t make sense to put in this kind of marketing effort.

[Jedilicious]

Spotted local advertising in Amsterdam today. Must be something big…

[echo_opera]

Man. That dude is riding his bike everywhere putting up this Signage.

[jw]

https://www.birdsthings.com/

this is what I personally recommend for that functionality. You can then easily make a .bat file that will launch this and Ableton from the same shortcut, you can probably do something similar on macos too

[intracoastal]

If this is a Note with buttons, I really wish they do change the sequencer, but judging from the icons shared in the video, one of the resembles the “edit” mode of the sequencer, so that is a little bit worrisome. It’s a great app but it frustrating not to be able to just add notes in the sequencer, instead you have to real-time record and then edit. It would also make sense that they plan to expand on and monetize on Ableton Cloud, and this device could probably the catalyst. No way they built a cloud service just for Note with limitation of storage for 5 sets.

[alexbuga]

@echo_opera

Man. That dude is riding his bike everywhere putting up this Signage.

Yeah, he’s got some stamina biking from Berlin to Amsterdam.
Probably Ableton Move is an eBike motor

[OMG-Unit]

Check the beta, you can add notes in the piano roll now

Join the Ableton Note beta

[Kegeratorz]

@Jedilicious

Spotted local advertising

No shit! I just got back to the office and found this on the white board. It must be something big!

[wowzer]

I think this is a crossfader

[dzyndzel]

[CCMP]

Another observation- Ableton haven’t used the 4 vertical, 4 horizontal line symbol in any of the Note branding/marketing… but it’s all over the Move campaign; those lines indicate Session View and Arrangement View, right? So… maybe that’s going to be a part of Move?

[antic604]

I think German companies should refrain from using intersecting, perpendicular lines in their logos…

[jean_voyage]

Hmm I think if it’s really not much more than Note-in-a-box then I fear that the only way to really make the Move attractive to many people is by launching a subscription to the Note app at which point they can go f… themselves…

Ok maybe another way would be to launch Move at a really affordable price (but I don’t think that’s gonna happen).

I look for ward to the GAS therapy video explaining that “you can have everything this does in a ten dollar app on your iPhone”

[antic604]

@jean_voyage

Hmm I think if it’s really not much more than Note-in-a-box then I fear that the only way to really make the Move attractive to many people is by launching a subscription to the Note app at which point they can go f… themselves…

It’s enough that you don’t have to have a f**ing iPhone to use it

[RFJ]

I’m hearing, Octatrack owners will be very happy.

Anyone?

[BassesAndPads]

This is true. I think my prediction of an m8 style handheld running note may be true.

It only makes sense., since Note is really awesome but a bit fiddly. It can be tough to accurately play beats on my iphone for whatever reason so going in an. editing the notes like you showed is very slow and painful.

Move appears to be a way to compose ideas on the move like in Note, and then seamlessly load them into Live via ableton cloud.

What is super cool about note is since it dumps into Live, you don’t need a ton of tracks. For example, 1-2 drum racks will handle all of your drum needs. So it is very easy to flesh out a dance track with that track count. It stays minimal and clean, and just lets you hit a flow at any time, save the idea and then finish it in Live with no friction at all - which is key. Even with M8, you have to do the track bounce/export. With MPC you need to bounce out or use the MPC software.Some experience jitter with their hardware and need syncboxes…etc. Overbridge is cool but not always stable or reliable…etc. Point is - it’s always painful to quickly get ideas out hardware and into the DAW.

Note eliminates that, but it stumbles over itself due to the touchscreeen controls, and fiddly editing.

I will predict the complaints now - Not enough sample space. We all know no matter what the space is, there will be complaints there.

Not enough effects. Note obviously does not come with the full sweet of Ableton effects, but it gives more than enough to get something going. Regardless, people will complain.

Probably won’t power Max4Live plugins. If they make it work with M4l, that would be incredible, but I would not expect that.

Key thing will be - does it send MIDI? If so that will make sampling much easier. Most likely has a 1/8th TRS input so you can sample in mono or stereo.

Another cool thing would be if it can be used as an FX box to run hardware into, and process with FX. That’s a nice to have that I will not expect, but will be pleasantly surprised by.

I think if you don’t try to make this the master piece of hardware that can do all the things ever, this could probably be a very exciting tool.

For the person who needs every function under the sun in hardware, this probably isn’t it (and shouldn’t be).