Agreed. Seems there is lots of mental gymnastics going on to justify the buy.
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People think they need to get away from the computer, but what they really need to get away from is the Internet. Addiction is hard to acknowledge, itās easier to blame the device than oneself.
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People are differentā¦ I can switch off from the internet easy enough if Iām on my computer, but thereās no getting away from staring at a screen; thatās why I like escaping it. Iām sure many others are the same way.
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Sure thing! I can stop whenever too.
This isnāt the right forum to discuss that, unfortunately
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Time to let some stuff go fella isnāt it? 
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Just exported a recorded sample to check. The mic records stereo (or rather, dual mono) files at 44.1khz / 32 bits per sample (!!).
IIRC Ableton Live always records everything in stereo. āMonoā recordings are actually dual mono. Edit: this is wrong. I did not RC.
Thereās enough storage and RAM that this shouldnāt become an issue for a long time, but I agree that it would be a nice option.
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Yep, the dream has become a nightmare at this point. 
I am about to go full-on consolidation; I think the Move will let me move on a lot of other devices, Iām just going to go deep Ableton I think, Live>Push>Note>Move covers all bases.
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There might be some control there. I havenāt tried it but the lfo has trigger mode and positive waveforms. Basically the top half of the waveform. Thereās also beat syncing that can extend up to 8 bars or fine tune with the sync off.
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I most certainly did not. I didnāt post that in a vacuum
Thanks for posting the shots though, looks like a maschine mikro case would be the closest size wise and still have a little room for cables and some earbudsā¦ been looking around for something these last couple of daysā¦
Yes, I tried this this morningā¦ it fits in the Mikro case quite well. Thereās a bit of empty space above it, but you could easy pad that out with some USB cable to stop any moving about.
Ableton Cloud is only for syncing, not for backups. At the moment, once a set is deleted or offloaded from Move, it canāt be restored to the device.
Moderator note: waaaaaay too many flags on this topic.
Please refrain from posting your opinions about China, US foreign politics, expressing opinions on the internet or whatever is outside of the scope of this thread, that is about Ableton Move.
As a reminder, if you need to vent your ideas about stuff, @Fin25 wrote a thread for this. Letās just respect each other opinion, please
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Late tuesday I think he said its in the mail.
From the little experience I have with Move so far they are very very different. The Move is very smooth to interact with. All the combinations of encoder and button presses are very intuitive and awesome to work with while SH-4d is wellā¦ the Roland workflow. I can imagine some really like it but itās not for me. Much more convoluted.
When it comes to synths and sound design SH-4d is just in a completely different league. And so much more available parameters with dedicated or semi dedicated knobs. However, I personally prefer the raw sound of the Ableton synths even though the SH-4d synths always seem to sit really well in the mix.
Where the two boxes are similar is that they both lack an elegant solution to switch between songs or whatever we should call it in a live set setting.
The sets on Move do not switch in time and SH-4d clicks and cuts tails. I guess at this point SH-4d is a little smoother in this regard with better workarounds.
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It reminds me of the OP-Z
Definitely disappointed that chance didnāt make v1; Iāve got my fingers crossed that it shows up soon but I donāt have any insight into the roadmap. And polyrhythmic stuff is limited since there are only four sequencers ā even though the playback polyphony is comparatively massive, the Digitakt 1/2, OP-Z, Octatrack, and many many other current devices have eight or sixteen sequencing tracks so they have exponentially more options for polymetric rhythm.
That said, the Moveās sequencer supports up to 16 bars and is really fast to pick up, plus you can shift notes en masse using the Loop Selector button. And for just getting started, the pads make it easy to get your notes and velocities more-or-less sorted on the first pass. Itās a question of preferred workflow ā someone that really understands and enjoys Elektronās deep programming method is likely going to struggle and come away feeling cold.
Re: āquickly lay down an idea and then further develop that on the computer,ā itās a silly marketing catchphrase for sure and I agree that itās more fun to push things as far as possible before moving to the computer. But being able to open up your set in Live and have everything exactly in place using the exact same sounds IS quite nice. Iāve exported a lot of Ableton sets from other apps and devices ā Electribe 2S, Patterning, Koala off the top of my head ā and itās usable, but you just get .wav files so if anything comes out wrong you have to go back to the source.
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And Android is a fucking mess for audio, thatās why even with 70% of market share thereās almost nothing audio/music-related for it.
Iām also a developer by trade and would never target Android for an audio app, not only the audio stack is a mess of latency, thereās also so many diverging hardware that thereās no way to guarantee whatever you developed will work on a specific device, even if targeting a specific Android version.
Itās not easy, if it was there would be people filling this market in droves, exactly because there isnāt with such a huge market share that you should take this note to your heart.
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