Ableton Move [Archived]

You give me a break. Obviously I’m not saying Ableton is in crisis or anything - Live is awesome, so is Push. Move isn’t for me, but that’s a given it won’t appeal to everyone.

Clearly I was just being cheeky & playing off of the classic “can it run crisis?” thing :man_facepalming:

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A big reason why I’m into this product is the ability to use it as a couch controller for a full Ableton session. Every generation of Push has been too huge to do this comfortably. I love the jam on the pads - capture - new clip - rinse/repeat workflow of the Push 3. Having a reasonably usable sequencer/pad controller for the OP-1 F will also be quite nice. I think the price is pretty reasonable for what Ableton is offering (saying this as someone who got burned by the $799 original Polyend Play - my fault).

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It would be the USB C port

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Lovely, thanks! :slight_smile:

This looks like a really solid start. Just not quite ready to buy.

Would love to see their official roadmap.

I like your list. For mine, I would add:

  • more instruments and more fx from Live
  • some of new midi generative stuff from Live 12
  • expand to 8 tracks

Then I would absolutely buy one.

Until then I’m more than happy using my DT mk1 on the couch.

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USB-C port

Charge, connect to your computer, control Live and sample audio in Live via Move’s USB-C port.

i.e. “sample Move into Live”

That’s what firmware updates are for…I am pretty sure this will be well supported and will be developed in the future. Its a good start and its a cut down PUSH SA for the masses.

Errr…
Where is the laptop/desktop in this scenario?
Connected via long cable and displaying to a big TV?

I think I read in the manual, that it is an Input & Output device for Live… so I think it’s a regular audio interface that should work with IOS too.

I am not so sure. Unless the manual states clearly that Move is USB audio class-compliant, it may not be able to communicate with iOS devices.

not for me, but it makes sense…

its a new price point for Ableton, builds on Note.
can be seen as a feeder into the Live/Push ecosystem.

feels more evolution than revolution, but I think it’ll sell well, because of its ‘compatibility’ with Live.

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Bars!

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grafik

there are not many interfaces anymore that need a dedicated driver

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As per SonicState video, Move’s clip can do 16 bars of 16 steps, so 256 steps per clip.

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This is huge — it won’t fit everyone’s workflow, but 16 BARS on a groovebox is just wonderful.

4 tracks is a disappointment on paper, but the 16 pitches mode pushes this WAY beyond a lot of other devices if someone is willing to adjust their approach a little bit.

Same ballpark pricing as the SP-404 mkii, which is more powerful in a lot of ways but has some shortcomings that seem to be addressed here. Horses for courses, my friends! We’re spoiled for choice.

My biggest concern, and it pains me to say this, is actually the CPU. Benchmarks are meaningless on an optimized custom OS, but it’s likely to become a limiting factor in the roadmap. How long will it be before we get a Move 2 with killer features that aren’t available on the first version? The Push 1 only had about two years of general availability before they updated it. They marketed Push 3 as a less-environmentally-harmful long term investment; this looks far more disposable. Time will tell.

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Could be a good companion for the Syntakt. Although Syntakt could only work as a slave if I read the manual correctly.

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Cool marketing, but who’s actually making beats on the move?? It looks so awkward

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nope

4.1.1 Connecting to External Sound Sources

Aside from using Move’s built-in microphone for sampling, you can also sample sound from external sources with Move’s audio input port.

The input and output port are both 3.5 mm.

4.1.2.1 Using Move as an Audio Interface in Standalone Mode

In Standalone Mode, the audio output from Move can be sent to a computer. This means you can record Move’s main output directly into Live.

4.1.2.2 Using Move as an Audio Interface in Control Live Mode

In Control Live Mode, the audio input from Move can be sent to a computer. This means you can record audio from Move’s built-in microphone or line-in port into Live.

15.2 Selecting a Sampling Input Source

Three different input sources can be used for sampling: Mic, Line in (available when an audio source is connected to Move), or Resampling.

why no? It’s declared a regular audio interface… they usually work with IOS, not?

Maybe I just don’t get out enough, but I’ve never actually seen anyone doing this in real life.

I think most people are using these things on the couch, or their porch, or at a vacation house, away from the main studio. At least, I know that’s what I do. :man_shrugging:

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