From what I’ve read, not possible right now. Midi routing really needs some work in Ableton.
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To be clear, this the official 12.4 release, and not the 12.4.5 beta?
Anything special about the Simpler instance, as in, is this a stock instrument or home brew sample in Simpler?
If stock, can you share the preset name?
If home brew, do you know the length, sample rate of the sample used so I can try to recreate it?
I haven’t seen any spikes here, also on Mac mini, and I have had no issues with P3 in controller mode. There shouldn’t be major differences between P3 and P2 usage on 12.4.
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As for the Push 2, there was a problem where the midi script from 12.3 would get left behind when installing, this would make Push 2 not display things properly, there’s a reddit post about fixing that, basically deleting that file before you install 12.4 and it rewrites the new one, I did that and Push was still having some issues. the various note/layout pages would just show garbled leds, like they would all stay on. I just downgraded to 12.3 because there’s not anything I’m feeling like I’m missing out on yet, except the chorus
The CPU spike is on official release of 12.4, new file starts normally, maybe idles around 5-10% but isn’t stable, then as soon as it makes sound it stays elevated and spikey. Everything in my project is stock Ableton and the sample was the 808 kick from their library too. Didn’t notice any performance issues, Just seems weird.
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i updated to 12.4 for Link audio. i kind of hate updating though, specially having duplicates of all the songs i never finish.
I see the duplicate files as a good thing. It means I’m making progress developing my existing song projects; every one of those duplicates could have been another eight-bar loop I never touch again!
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(Asking to understand) Why would you have duplicates?
All my Live versions reference the same save locations for everything.
If I work in a new version, I’ll append the name to include the update version.
Also, might want to look at this: https://www.makidapp.com/
It works well for reviewing projects. I find it easiest to render a snippet of a saved set, inside the project folder.
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You can overwrite the older version if you want, right?
Try and turn off GPU rendering in the settings
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Extensions looks fantastic.
Was always a bit disappointed with the python api, was pretty rudimentary and never went anywhere.
Max is fine but its more a dsp prototype thing vs letting u get into the guts of how Ableton works.
Finally catching up to $60 Reaper 
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Yup. You can choose to replace it, or install alongside the older one.
I meant that they can choose to overwrite the projects instead of creating new versions.
the author of gary4juce just released a live extension enabling local inference from stable audio 3. apparently ace-step 1.5 is next. interesting times.
I got it to work here, but setting up the backend requires a bit of patience.
I think all the listed 3rd party devices are now just automatically mapped to the 8 knobs and the buttons for changing presets, plugins and plugin pages. Instead of having to map them manually inside Komplete Kontrol software. With the promise of deeper integration later on…
So it would be interesting if you‘re right and maybe Ableton even got a deeper integration than just MIDI mapping (like parameter names and real values on the display of Push).
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the ableton discord has an “extensions gallery” with a load of them in there. some posted here already and some in the library site as well… but not all of them.
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I just tried and initially it looked quite easy to map the encoders and some buttons in Push’s user mode to Komplete Kontrol (View → MIDI Learn in Komplete Kontrol). Unfortunately the encoders seem to send 0 and 127 and nothing in between (probably as a relative mode) and the knobs under the displays trigger Komplete Kontrol twice with one button press and release. I don’t know if there’s an easy fix, this way Push could control every NKS preset opened within Komplete Kontrol.
I don’t always render the audio of my live sets, especially for quick jams. This is my effort in dealing with that, it’s a combination of controlling live via a MIDI Remote Script (like the ones we use for devices, such as launchpad, etc.) and a custom Max for Live device which is always listening and records the audio in the Master channel to disk. All the orchestration comes from a desktop app. It ain’t been easy developing this.
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