A4 update

Daisuk · 2013-12-19T18:33:27.000Z

""Ma-chew!!"":

Although starting with an empty kit the extra resonance is selected by default.

But when loading an old one it’s not? It’s like a toggle on/off type thing with this new ressonance?
Excuse me for being so skeptic, just want to be 100% sure I won’t fuck up anything at this point! Hehe.

OSCar · 2013-12-19T18:35:41.000Z

""Daisuk"":

The update sounds cool, but regarding this;

The digital control system has also been tweaked such that the analog ladder filter can reach much higher levels of resonance, allowing for new sonic possibilities.

Will that mean that existing sounds might sound differently after upgrading to the new OS? I don’t want to risk losing some of the sounds I’ve made.

As explained it does require engaging but you may like what it adds to your sound - so far I’ve found it preferable to use it activated when using overdrive (gives a lot of bottom end enhancement to my ears).
It makes Filter one way more flexible - also means I can now use the HPF on Filter two in much the same way as the MS20 to boost certain frequency bands in the low end quite nicely so you get a lot of meat without the overdrive - if that makes any sense.

Daisuk · 2013-12-19T18:36:00.000Z

""void"":

why would you want to though…

Well, in case something in the new fucks up some of the kits I already have, it’d be a good thing to be able to go back.

Daisuk · 2013-12-19T18:37:08.000Z

""VennDiagram"":

[quote=“Daisuk”]The update sounds cool, but regarding this;

The digital control system has also been tweaked such that the analog ladder filter can reach much higher levels of resonance, allowing for new sonic possibilities.

Will that mean that existing sounds might sound differently after upgrading to the new OS? I don’t want to risk losing some of the sounds I’ve made.

As explained it does require engaging but you may like what it adds to your sound - so far I’ve found it preferable to use it activated when using overdrive (gives a lot of bottom end enhancement to my ears).
It makes Filter one way more flexible - also means I can now use the HPF on Filter two in much the same way as the MS20 to boost certain frequency bands in the low end quite nicely so you get a lot of meat without the overdrive - if that makes any sense.[/quote]
Sounds good. I’ll try the upgrade, then. Cheers!

Frank_Starling · 2013-12-19T18:37:56.000Z

""Daisuk"":

[quote=“Ma-chew!!”]Although starting with an empty kit the extra resonance is selected by default.

But when loading an old one it’s not? It’s like a toggle on/off type thing with this new ressonance?
Excuse me for being so skeptic, just want to be 100% sure I won’t fuck up anything at this point! Hehe.[/quote]
i’m with you on the want more details side although i guess i’ll just do it and deal with it .
i have a question to you updated guys : does the update wipes out your memory . if so you have to back-up everything and reload it i guess . any tips we should know before doing that ?

void · 2013-12-19T18:39:51.000Z

if you feel anxious about losing data, do a full backup with c6, it can’t hurt.

the OS update will copy your current project into project slot 2, and use project slot 1 for the factory patterns/kits.

void · 2013-12-19T18:42:24.000Z

filter reso boost is a toggle in the sound menu, enabled on the default patch, but disabled on all your old patches (including patches contained in kits). poly settings are part of the kit, and are also disabled for all your old kits as well as for new default kits.

in short, your project should be exactly the same after upgrading.

Frank_Starling · 2013-12-19T18:43:01.000Z

thanks ! very helpfull .
i guess i’ll have to check out what that c6 thing is then. can’t hurt to know how to use it i guess .

Frank_Starling · 2013-12-19T18:44:10.000Z

""void"":

filter reso boost is a toggle in the sound menu, enabled on the default patch, but disabled on all your old patches (including patches contained in kits). poly settings are part of the kit, and are also disabled for all your old kits as well as for new default kits.

in short, your project should be exactly the same after upgrading.

sounds good !

void · 2013-12-19T18:44:12.000Z

it’s just a sysex transfer app. you’ll need it to flash the OS upgrade anyway

Frank_Starling · 2013-12-19T18:46:53.000Z

this the season to be c6’ing

PES · 2013-12-19T18:50:55.000Z

Just started reading the readme file, some nice small updates here as well.

“Quantized real time recording can now be toggled on/off via [RECORD]+[PLAY] while live record mode is enabled.”

“Parameter page keys can now be held down to unveil the values for all parameters at once. This is similar to pressing a single encoder to show its value, but for all parameters on the page at once.”

“The [TRANSPOSE] button can now be used together with the [UP]/[DOWN] keys inside the SOUND BROWSER to change the keyboard octave. This is very convenient while previewing sounds with the mini keyboard.”

whet · 2013-12-19T19:24:13.000Z

Btw. You can doubleclick a track now to change a patch, like on the OT .
Only thing iam missing is the p-locks on the arp…

void · 2013-12-19T19:26:08.000Z

try making a beat, then mess with the poly settings.
careful with unisono & percussive sounds

Anigbrowl · 2013-12-19T19:42:11.000Z

From the manual…

Note that very high resonance values might cause the filter to become unstable and produce unexpected sounds, especially in combination with the overdrive parameter.

It does indeed become unstable and produce very unpredictable sounds. Even more so when poly and unison enter the picture. Extremely satisfying, sounds like a whole new machine

Really excellent upgrade. I still wish the note slide behavior could be adjusted and a few other tiny user interface things (eg LFO destination still easy to change by accident) but these are very minor problems compared to better patch/kit management, better filtering, better voice allocation, better storage…my A4 feels like it just doubled in power.

void · 2013-12-19T20:09:54.000Z

you now have to confirm changes to modulation destinations with YES, otherwise they will return to their previous setting after the timeout.

Ma-chew · 2013-12-19T20:10:59.000Z

yes its a checkbox, for your existing patches you have to enable it.

And yes you will probably like the extra character is gives to your patch if you enable it.

Ma-chew · 2013-12-19T20:11:53.000Z

""void"":

you now have to confirm changes to modulation destinations with YES, otherwise they will return to their previous setting after the timeout.

Or click the pot.

amnesia · 2013-12-19T20:47:55.000Z

My screen is stuck on SUCCESS! REBOOTING

How long should that stay on the screen for? Its been 5 minutes.

amnesia · 2013-12-19T20:59:50.000Z

I just restarted it and it finished fine.