well this is somewhat a bummer for me
given that the Ot is the self proclaimed master there should be an option to reject transport cc’s
i have unchecked the transport and clock receive but still the note a and a#1 start / stops the sequencer.
i can record into the midi channels while midi controll audio cc in and audio note in are disabled.
but now i cant use the midi of a kick on my AR to trigger a ‘‘sidechain’’ on a thrumachine
dunno do i overlook somn?
yea i know i could just not play the lower registar, but still… AR has 4 octaves wich start on c1…and the dual vco is a good nasty synth;)
boggles my mind the audio cc note in setting
does it have to do with the AR settings? ive gone through everything
thx for the reply
i thought of this as well since i want to trigger slices on the AR
do u have exp. with this? can you recommend one wich i can set and forget?
It’s not the most straightforward option but I’d always recommend considering an Axoloti for this job, simply because they cost quite bit less than most MIDI filters but you actually get what amounts to a more powerful Nord Micromodular (minus the enclosure and controls). Making a MIDI filter patch for it is really straightforward.
Take a look on midisolutions boxes, one or two of those can do the job, “router” or “event processor”, I think router is the one you need.
Or you can use a program called home midi translator on your computer if you use a computer, no box needed, just midi usb cable. Ps : the support and client service will help you to realise your objectives on the home forum
One of the MidiPAL clones is a really good option, too. I’ve been using one of these for a few years:
I’ve also got an original MidiPAL and they’re one of the most useful pieces of gear I’ve ever owned. I’ve got the vanilla firmware on the MidiPAL and use it for all kinds of MIDI troubleshooting, and the MIDI to analog sync firmware on the MidiGAL. Axoloti does even more and costs less, but the MidiGAL is more user friendly and still does a lot more than something like a MIDI Solutions box for less money. The rk-002 is the cheapest and should be great if you can get it working (for me the browser-based software for flashing it was REALLY picky about interfaces - I had to try 4 different interfaces on two different computers with a few different USB cables before I found a combination it would work with, and even then I could flash different firmware on but I couldn’t actually change any of the settings successfully - never did figure it out or get any help from their customer support, but I don’t think that’s typical). It’s still probably the best choice for the OP if it works for them, since it’s very much set-and-forget, and doesn’t take up any extra space or need external power or anything.
One of my long standing gripes is that midi note mappings can’t be turned off selectively, I have asked for it on FRs.
I’d go further and say that I wish the OT had multimap where the project could contain whatever mappings were set. (Also asked for on FRs)
My solution is to use a midipal, and as @Supercolor_T-120 mentioned Axoloti can do this kind of thing too, as well as allowing usb midi devices to be used, and a whole ton of other stuff.
I plan on building an Axoloti OT project when I get the time, I’ll share all the files here, but don’t hold your breath waiting for it as it is quite far down my todo list.
so i think this should defenitly be a FR.
to me it does not make no sense to have the option to disable transport msgs but the Ot is still recieving it. i consider this a bug/ designflaw. so i this has to fixed asap.
i dont want to buy an extra midi box just for this simple task.
( altough i still consider it to trigger „slices“ on the AR)
Yes. Since OS 1.40 last year Elektron included more options for the AUDIO NOTE IN setting. You can customise the OT’s response so that the transport and other controls are not activated by other MIDI note messages by using Chromatic mode on any or all audio tracks.
Sorry I didn’t get what you’d like to control from AR…Slices, Slots, chromatic, Thru machines…?
As @PeterHanes stated, there are new modes on OT, allowing to play slices from AR for instance, without midi processors.
These modes can be per track or global. It can solve the Start/Stop problem in certain cases. But from AR, there are notes range limits. A midi processor is still a solution to solve range limits.
My feature request is that trig modes could be retained with the project.
this is the problem. when transport recieve is unchecked none such midi should be recieved yet it does. the option are all fine till this point. it does not make any sense to trigger start stop from any external source. it makes it difficult to utelize the full potential of interacting gear/ instruments
sezare56
AR is the Analog Rytm
im thinking of programming an axoloti or any midi box to triger a ‘‘samplechain’’ with different start points on the AR, like u can trigger slices on the OT-its another topic and i just mentioned it because of the suggestions above=)
such a midibox could also filter out midi cc’s. wich this thread is about.
Filter out notes you mean? (Unless you use CC59 as notes).
You didn’t anwer my question. What do you want to control on OT from AR?
This is important, because depending on your answer, you can use new external midi control, controlling Trig modes (OS 1.40).
Apparently you don’t know them, they don’t use START / STOP, you don’t need a midi processor to control slices, slots, etc…*
*Except Track trig mode, aka Normal / Legacy mode.
Unless you want to trigger Plays Free Tracks, there is probably a solution with these new features, without midi processing, avoiding START / STOP trigger.
AR note range can be a problem though.
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I did it, and I don’t recommend it. You need to use crossfader CC48 to avoid latency. New Slice control feature is much more appropriate.
Exactly! The fact that this starts/stops the sequencer makes the new midi mapping of sample playback useless. How can I play samples when playing starts/stops the sequencer? I shouldn’t need more equipment to get around it.
It’s a dumb feature that I’ve never needed in the 10 years I’ve had the thing. There should be an option to disable it.
Why? The new midi mappings interpret the incoming notes differently. There is no “start/stop via notes” feature when you are using the new mappings.
Indeed the situation has even improved, because now you can at least indirectly deactivate this feature by using a different midi mapping. But of course this deactivates also the other default “note-to-feature” mappings which may or may not be handy (like triggering record).