4 bars

octacalm · 2014-03-27T11:31:47.000Z

Is there a way of extending the standard 4 bars? My workflow at the moment involves creating 2 projects for a track. The first project is for the beats/percussion (which use up most of the available tracks). I sample this as a 64 pattern and then import it into Project 2 and slice it up 4 times (as per secret musics tutorial). So basically i get 4 variations of the beats. But i would like to have say 8 variations of the beats from project 1 on 1 track. How?

wintermute · 2014-03-27T11:44:52.000Z

You can use parts! This is exactly what they’re for!

Eg: I’ll have 4 partterns of drums (with the 4th bar of the 4th pattern being a fill) then you can use part 2, which has exactly the same drums (or different as different parts can contain different samples)

As for using different projects, I don’t really see why as you have 16x16 patterns of 4 bars each which means 1024 bars per project!

octacalm · 2014-03-27T12:13:01.000Z

Think i got into a muddle with parts before by changing various trigs. I mainly use parts to save versions now. But will look into them again for reasons you mentioned - cheers.

wintermute · 2014-03-27T12:26:55.000Z

No problems! I’m still trying to work out parts myself, it’s a very powerful feature with little documentation! I’m using it as a basic pattern variation tool, but I’m sure it’s capable of much more!

zeropoint · 2014-03-27T12:39:22.000Z

Try this thread:

EDIT. just realised you were the op in that thread too…use the same principle to achieve what you’re looking for.

http://www.elektronauts.com/t/slicing/4381/37282

I like to keep a separate project for making chains on the OT.

[li]Just make a second 4 bars pattern with your variations and sample it off.[/li]

[li]Slice them both up into 1 bar slices and save the slices off individually.[/li]

[li]Open your dedicated project and load each slice into a slot[/li]

[li]For the sake of argument let’ say we’re working at 120 bpm (it makes the math easy) and each 4/4 bar lasts 2 seconds (60 secs divided by 120 = 0.5 secs per beat) Now you want your 8 bars worth of slices to last only 4 bars in this track so they will fit into the OT’s 4 pages.[/li]

[li]Set the tempo multiplier for the track you’re laying your trigs out on to 1/2. Now each 16th trig will actually last 1/8th. So if you put a trig on the first beat of the bar and sample lock it to one of your bar long variations, it will only last half a bar at this tempo division. With me ?[/li]

[li]So lay out your sample trigs - 8 of them at 1/2 bar divisions and lock your 1 bar sample slices to them.[/li]

Now follow my post in the above thread for setting up your track recorder etc. and you will end up with a file of 16 secs duration which you can then slice into 8 x 1 bar slices. Of course with different tempo mulipliers (dividers really) you can get more variations. At 1/8th for example you could build a long chain of 32 x 1 bar variations ready for you to slice and lock. you will of course have to allot more time to your track recorder (default is 16s approx per track) in order to achieve this.

and that’s before you start turning time stretch off for your samples and half timing the OT tempo in your chain project as well as using the tempo multipliers.

octacalm · 2014-03-27T12:55:07.000Z

Ah nice one ZP. Will give that a go after work - thank you