253 Digitone Presets - From Dusk Till Dawn

Elektron Gear Digitone/Digitone Keys
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To avoid this matter being misunderstood perpetually.

.syx files are system exclusive, which literally means exclusive to one compatible system… each unique system is, by design, given a unique number and it will, by design, only read a system exclusive message that matches its own unique identifier.

So to clear this up, the DN2 can accept system exclusive messages which are destined for it. DN 1 .syx presets were numbered differently for DN1 and are by virtue of this only compatible to read directly on DN1.

If a person who owns a DN1 and DN1 wants to convert sounds to a system agnostic version it can be done as explained in another topic by utilising transfer which acts as a translator (to .dnsnd etc) for compatible patches and patterns etc.

Elektron may facilitate something via transfer which accommodates this requirement , but for now there’s only workarounds as discussed for those who don’t own a DN1.

As far as online content from Elektron, I wonder if they may offer all of the legacy content in a format suited to both devices, but for now they are well aware and will no doubt provide a way forward when they are able to.

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Awesome, thank you for the review! Yeah they transfer iover nicely to the DNII @Drumunkey, as has been mentioned. They are all in the dnsnd file extension. I’ve added a line on the product page to make this clear as you’re not the first one to ask :slight_smile:

And thanks @avantronica for the background info on sysex.

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Look, I get it it’s your job on this board to run interference for Elektron. I remember you from the initial Overbridge dumpster-fire back in the dark-ages.

But you’re 100% wrong.

  • The Yamaha TX-7 could/can load DX-7 SysEx

Diff synth, same mfg.

  • The Korg Volca FM can load DX7 sysex

Diff Synth, Diff Mfg.

Etc. There’s plenty of examples of devices that can read other devices sysex.

So your contention that there’s some immutable law of the universe that kept Elektron from allowing the DN1 presets in sysex format to be loaded on the DN2 is a false one.

It’s possible, it’s been done.

There’s zero probability that someone at Elektron didn’t say in a staff meeting, “Hey, all those old DN1 presets will work with the carry-over machine/engine, we need a way to get them loaded”

You launched a new version of Transfer around the same time as the launch.
You make claims that DN1 presets will work with DN2. You just can’t actually you know, get them shoved into the machine.

  • So Elektron knew the need
  • knew the issue
  • Had at least two solutions (alter DN2 OS to read DN1 or have some minor translation in Transfer)
  • Chose not to do anything

That’s basically the definition of “Nerfed”

It’s not the end of the world, the DN2 is an amazing box I’m glad I bought and I’d recommend it. It’s obvious that over the last decade since I became an Elektron customer they’ve learned a thing or two. But to have an official rep on an official customer service board continue to gaslight their customers seems wrong.

Elektron should REALLY do a better job of calling out a known limitation like this until it’s fixed.

From my POV, I knew that it came with a pretty small collection of presets, and most of them on the “weird” side to show off all the new capabilities. Makes sense.
However, because it was claimed that DN1 presets can be loaded on DN2, I figured I’d pick up a few to have more bread-n-butter sounds. I sure I’m not the only one, and I’m sure Elektron Customer Service is fielding a lot of traffic from people that are buying OFFICIAL soundpacks that are delivered in .sysx that they can’t use.

Yes, there is a small percentage out there in the .dn* format thankfully (Thanks Dave!)

So in summary, the appropriate response from a customer service best-practice:
“We screwed up, we’re sorry, and we’re working hard to offer a solution ASAP.”

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I don’t claim anything is carved in stone and set or unavoidable, i explain why it is the way it is because it’s a bit much to be spamming every possible topic with the same point you’ve made and which has in any case been well discussed in a specific topic. That’s what moderating is, i don’t ‘interfere’ for Elektron, i moderate the community here … it’s not gaslighting when you state simple truths, doing anything other than abiding by the ethos of system exclusive, is by definition exceptional - Elektron are working on this and i imagine it will be translated in Transfer (as it is already) rather than attempting this in the device firmware.

Nerfed is, in any case, still a disingenuous representation of the reality of the situation as is your cynical mis-characterisation of said ‘meeting’

Elektron knew direct transfer of sysex wasn’t possible and have deliberately elected to do the translation in and through Transfer which clearly makes the most sense … so it’s in hand apparently, but i’m not bothered how long they take, it’ll happen when it’s ready

If you want Elektron (no Mods are official 'rep’s) to remedy your concerns you should communicate with them, the Elektronauts forum is for seeking solutions and as you already know they are working on something to address this and that it’s not available yet then you might want to focus on the clarity (or lack thereof) in their communications, perhaps they can provide you the translated versions of content you have purchased, because nobody on here will be permitted to facilitate that under any circumstances

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Thanks @DaveMech for making these useable on the DN2. Great sounds and some clever techniques I’ve found so far.

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Great to hear thank you :slight_smile:

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Yea, getting back to the subject, I also pulled the trigger on these and some are real gems. Very solid pack. And with the Black Friday promo, it’s a steal. Highly recommend and thanks, Dave.

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Is the black friday promo exclusive?

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Awesome cheers :slight_smile:

@Kethro, not exclusive no. I shared it through my mailinglist and instagram story (post later this week). Not really comfortable with promoting such a thing on the forum. Will send you a DM.

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Curious about the BF deal. Is there a DT2 and DN2 bundle?

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Uhhhhh… Do I want to know how good the BF deal is since I just paid full price…?

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DM send !

@Drumunkey

Sending you a DM soon

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It’s an extremely bad deal. I paid more than the normal price. Don’t worry about it.

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Just to make sure nobody misinterprets this, it’s a joke of course. :wink:

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Crap. I wanted to make it funny and made it worse ;). I confirm it was a joke!

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Just bought this pack. As much as I love my OG DN I’m not the best at creating sounds from scratch (certainly not to this level of quality). I feel this pack has really opened things up for me and is super inspiring. Thanks, Dave - brilliant stuff.

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No shame a not being able to create sounds from scratch. It takes patience and time . I don’t have much of either these days… LOL I like presets so I get a jump start on where I want t be. Welcome to the club!!

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Hey Dave! Was eyeing the DN pack and just saw this thread. Any chance I could get in on the Black Friday offer?

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https://www.elektronauts.com/t/black-friday-deals-2024/224372/25

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Thank you!!

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