$20 iPad Octatrack wannabe?

SB-SIX · 2014-01-15T06:59:31.000Z

""amnesia"":

Maybe I am the only person in the world doing thos. I buy an app and use it for 5 minutes then never use it again. Its crazy really becuase the ipad is still such an amazing peice of tech but its nothing like a real hardware Elektron

Nope, here’s another one. I hugely regret most of my ipad purchases. There are some expensive apps i bought and only used a few seconds. In android store you can at least get a refund after a few minutes but not with apple.

Accent · 2014-01-15T07:40:11.000Z

I wish they offered something like a 24 hour demo mode for iPad apps.

I just pick wisely now, and try to only buy things on sale, or wait for a while to decide on buying an app. I recently organized all of my music apps into folders, categorized by the ones I use most…there’s a lot I should probably just delete, but a few that have become essential.

Hooking up the iPad to the rest of my hardware made it a lot more “real” as an instrument for me. I recently mapped out all the controls on the MNM to a controller set to the Mono’s autochannel, and am sequencing some of my iPad synths from the mono as well. I’ve already mapped all the controls in Animoog, and am going to do the same with a few others. When I select the track for Animoog on the Mono, I can control it just like hardware, as well as take advantage of the touch interface.

octatrackbrainz · 2014-01-15T07:52:45.000Z

""Accent"":

Hooking up the iPad to the rest of my hardware made it a lot more “real” as an instrument for me.

Maybe I should put my BCR-2000 to work.
Accent–you think using the midi tracks on the octatrack to sequence, say, the animoog, would be worth figuring out??

Accent · 2014-01-15T08:12:06.000Z

Yeah, it shouldn’t be too difficult. I’ll know more after my OT arrives, but a big decision in pulling the plug on it was due to how much I’ve been enjoying sequencing my apps, and wanting to use the midi sequencer on the OT to control certain apps and sample their output. If you’ve already go the tools at your disposal, you should try it out.

avantronica · 2014-01-15T11:22:13.000Z

add me to the list of those with app graveyards on their iPad - the only ones I get mileage from are the ones that can’t really(cheaply) be replaced in hardware - E.G. Lemur (ie cheaply), but i wouldn’t try to use it as a MPC pad substitute because hardware is always most engaging - there are a few which exploit the touch interface amazingly well and are enormously powerful, but the ipad still doesn’t grab me in the way that hardware does

Rank31 · 2014-01-15T13:57:02.000Z

I love the “Bow Mode” of samplr and don’t know how to have the same with Octatrack.

Rank31 · 2014-01-15T14:03:06.000Z

I’d prefer a $20 Ipad Monomachine and keep my H/W Octatrack

zeropoint · 2014-01-15T14:08:15.000Z

samplr’s bow mode is a basic form of granular synthesis.

[left]Granular[/left]
[left]You can kind of do ‘granular’ with the crossfader already.
Load up some (short) sound and slice in into, say, 64, enable slices, enable slice looping. Then map the crossfader to the slice number. Try it with a small bit of speech or vocals. Stick a short amp envelope on it, place some trigs, flick the crossfader around to change the timbre.[/left]

taken from staticvoid octatrack wiki:

http://wiki.thestaticvoid.net/ElektronOctatrack/ElektronOctatrack

Rank31 · 2014-01-15T15:10:17.000Z

Thanks for the tip Zeropoint. I will try this evening.

AikiGhost · 2014-01-15T15:26:25.000Z

Looks extremely good, I think Ill buy that tonight and try it out.

sovietpop · 2014-01-15T15:33:41.000Z

""amnesia"":

Maybe I am the only person in the world doing thos. I buy an app and use it for 5 minutes then never use it again. Its crazy really becuase the ipad is still such an amazing peice of tech but its nothing like a real hardware Elektron

I’ve got the same problem.
I’ve bought a lot of audio apps like Lemur , Waldorf Nave, ims20, Animoog, PPG Wave etc and i just never use them …
Those are excellent apps but … i don’t know , for me the Ipad is more something to browse the web and listen to movies and stuff.
I have to stop buying apps really. If i didn’t have a Monomachine , Octatrack, A4 etc… i guess i would use the Ipad more but right now i just don’t need anything else to make music (except the next Elektron machine of course :))

bandersong · 2014-01-15T16:22:56.000Z

Looks interesting, but ultimately like others have said I have a hard time using the iPad as an instrument. I have Samplr and I never ever use it.

On the other hand I’m about to buy an interface to use the iPad as my main DAW with Auria.

tsv · 2014-01-15T17:09:19.000Z

Similar situation here. I’m actually banning myself from purchasing any new iOS synth/sampler apps until I use the ones I have already purchased!

I do however use Neyrink V-Control Pro quite a bit to control Pro Tools while I’m across the room having fun with all my Elektron gear!

FreeFall · 2014-01-15T18:37:48.000Z

The only thing less inspiring than making music with a mouse and keyboard is making music with a touch screen.

I wanted to like it, for mobility sake, but I friggin’ hate it. Plus it’s just more time spent staring into a screen, neck cranked down, mouth open, and one finger moving. That ain’t livin’!

subq · 2014-01-15T18:43:54.000Z

""zeropoint"":

samplr’s bow mode is a basic form of granular synthesis.

[left]Granular[/left]
[left]You can kind of do ‘granular’ with the crossfader already.
Load up some (short) sound and slice in into, say, 64, enable slices, enable slice looping. Then map the crossfader to the slice number. Try it with a small bit of speech or vocals. Stick a short amp envelope on it, place some trigs, flick the crossfader around to change the timbre.[/left]

taken from staticvoid octatrack wiki:

http://wiki.thestaticvoid.net/ElektronOctatrack/ElektronOctatrack

I don’t know there was an OT wiki, cool

I’m a sucker for iPad music apps and I buy nearly all of them I run across…that being said, I passed on this one…developer abandoned ship on the previous version and I’m reading this new version isn’t ready for primetime yet…I will wait

subq · 2014-01-15T18:45:53.000Z

""FreeFall"":

The only thing less inspiring than making music with a mouse and keyboard is making music with a touch screen.

I wanted to like it, for mobility sake, but I friggin’ hate it. Plus it’s just more time spent staring into a screen, neck cranked down, mouth open, and one finger moving. That ain’t livin’!

I think a touchscreen is great for a lot of the process…every since I picked up the CME Xkey, I no longer have the stigma of the kb on the screen (that’s the only part I didn’t like)

zeropoint · 2014-01-15T19:53:37.000Z

""FreeFall"":

The only thing less inspiring than making music with a mouse and keyboard is making music with a touch screen.

I wanted to like it, for mobility sake, but I friggin’ hate it. Plus it’s just more time spent staring into a screen, neck cranked down, mouth open, and one finger moving. That ain’t livin’!

doesn’t have to be used like that. with a midi interface you can set up a tactile midi controller and map the controls that work better that way in the apps that allow it (faderfoxes here)…and sequence it from the OT. i have mine set up on a swan neck attached to the crane stand that my OT sits on…this way the iPad becomes a very powerful partner / feeder indeed for the OT …plus I can use the lemur app with kraftf’s template to control stuff more comfortably on the OT.

subq · 2014-01-15T20:27:39.000Z

I have lemur, I need to try that…right now I’ve just been sequencing ipad from OT with the ikey

I really need to get an interface/midi done right though, I really dig this CME xkey and would love to have ipad/OT with xkey for the keys…soon

virtual_flannel · 2014-01-15T23:31:17.000Z

""FreeFall"":

The only thing less inspiring than making music with a mouse and keyboard is making music with a touch screen.

I wanted to like it, for mobility sake, but I friggin’ hate it. Plus it’s just more time spent staring into a screen, neck cranked down, mouth open, and one finger moving. That ain’t livin’!

Haha, ya it funny, I originally got into iPads for music. I thought I was going to love the futuristic interface of touch screen!!! Turns out I actually find it tedious working on a touch screen, but there are about 10 synths on there that I can say I like better than any vst Ive ever tried. I actually REALLY like the sound of a lot of apps, and at 20 bucks instead of 200, having a touchscreen sound module with every different type of synthesis you could imagine is pretty handy. Between my OP-1 and iPad, I’m good for digital synthesis. And I do love digital.

nukage · 2014-01-16T16:22:01.000Z

I agree with a lot of people on here, at least my iPad 3 isn’t powerful enough to do anything incredibly cool with by itself… most keyboard apps don’t have a sequencer so it makes it difficult to program patches since you’re constantly triggering it with one hand, leaves only one hand free to tweak stuff. Using elektron stuff gets you used to a higher standard as well. However, using the OT to sequence apps like Nave and resample them really made the iPad more easily accessible to my workflow, and Samplr is really great as well, exporting those loops into the OT allows me to get longer ideas going.