Hey, no I don’t think you can render out the results with the actual eq and similar applied. The actual wav files remain raw. I haven’t tried to mix down a batch of tracks into say the master, and that might potentially yield the result you’re after. But my guess so far is, this can’t be done.
I can easily post a version where all the fx, eq, compression, gain and panning applied in the Bluebox are removed, for reference. I’ll do that tomorrow and we’ll see what comes out of it.
Between the blackbox and bluebox, though, you could, right? Or sacrifice two channels on the bluebox and send the main out to them (and make sure those channels aren’t going to main), to print your current mix. You’d run into quality/generation problems with this, of course, but no more so than with tape.
Yes, that’d work. You could potentially record all Bluebox tracks one by one into the Blackbox, and either just export them from there or perhaps even cooler, give them the sampler treatment. Beat count, slicing, granular and bi-directional looping, each track applied to its own start point from the sequencer, would generate very interesting results.
Will have that pair in a few weeks… I think it’s going to be the core of a travel rig, once travel is a thing again, probably with a poly beebo, typhon, and micromonsta. Should be a lovely little ecosystem.
Like others have said, the highs seem a little too pronounced and there seems room for lots of low end. But the bones are so damn good. There’s so much good here, could benefit from some tweaking but also if it were released exactly like this it’d be ok too. You got skills talent and taste! I’d like to hear this with some more low end and bass, but even on my phone speaker, it was solid and in the upper echelon of all music I hear on the forums (not that it’s in any way a competition!)
It also seems, the Bluebox takes cc from a controller, allowing you to map say something from Novation through the Learn function, which works similar to Blackbox and Ableton. Haven’t tried this yet but 1010 Music confirms this can be done.
It seems the Bluebox actually records to master as well, not just through the six outputs. I haven’t tried this myself, but essentially if this works, it means you can render a master directly in the Bluebox, if you’re happy with the end results.
Thank you.
I own the blackbox and the “learn” feature is very good to map functions for direct access to an external control.
If e.g. it would be possible to map the volume controls of the tracks to a controller with midi-faders, one would have the volume function directly accessbile in which ever screen you are.
Right, yeah, I though this was the case — I had forgotten it when I was thinking about loopback above. I could still see it happening sense to take your master recording on a blackbox instead, since the bluebox doesn’t have much in the way of manipulation tools yet. Are the directory structures compatible between the two devices? Like, can you just move a card back and forth and have it find stuff?
Yes, that seems to be the purpose, though I’ve yet to try this. I won’t be using the Bluebox like this myself, but I can totally see this is a valid scenario, in live contexts especially.
Hello, nope, I don’t think it is, but the files are pure wav, so moving a recording from the Bluebox to the Blackbox is an easy enough affair, well worth the effort.
I’m gonna give the master section a more thorough try this week, as well as the CC mapping. I need to at least experience it conceptually myself to properly write about it in the review, even if I won’t be using this much in my own productions. I’ll let you know how it goes.
Ok, so here’s the fallout from testing the master section as well as midi mapping - this all works as you might expect it to.
Master records the stereo output to a separate file, which you can access from the card or from the Edit section within the Bluebox and actually apply it to a track. I would imagine this could get messy fast, but it’s an interesting way to create longer sets from rendered files, if you’re happy with the in-box Bluebox results. And it skips the recording to final output part, again if you’re happy with the Bluebox mix being your master for whatever purpose.
As far as CC control goes @Dymaxion , I took out the Deluge and mapped out its controls to all kinds of Bluebox parameters, essentially turning the Deluge into a live midi controller for the Bluebox. Apply this workflow to any of your favourite controller with sliders, knobs and whatnot and you’re good to go. For a live context, the Bluebox might be a bit fiddly for the random funky DJ, but this feature takes care of that. If you got a space ship dashboard-sized favourite controller, you can most likely use it with the Bluebox.
This is awesome! I’m glad to know it’s working. Can you map a control to mute the send of a channel to the secondary outputs, without muting the whole channel or changing the level? If it works, this means I can use a secondary output as a looper input and sequence what tracks get sent to the looper. If it doesn’t, I guess I can use post-fade sends at unity gain, but it’s nice to have the possibility of a channel muted on main but not in the looper.