1010music Bento

Destructive

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nice

I’ve been wanting to buy the Bento since its release, but now with Tonverk in the wild the comparison became difficult.
I feel like Bento is heavily focused on songwritting and live-looping, while Tonverk is more focused on sound design but it’s harder to do big arrangements on it.
I wish I could have a Bento with more sound design capabilities, or Tonverk with better sampling tools (like slicing).

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for me I think bento sits at a very comfortable balance where it’s not overwhelming with options and it’s fun to interact with.

well, usually. without exaggerating, every feature I’ve touched in 1.2.4 has led me to some catastrophic bug.

It’s a very cool little machine that does all the things I want from a battery powered box. I just wish it didn’t keep breaking every time I try to do something new

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Thanks for this. I was starting to think about giving this another chance now that it seemed finished.

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Same boat for me, in paper it seems to be close to what I wanted, and with the fireball engine (and ploy aftertouch on midi hopefully ) on the horizon it even seems that it can be exactly what i wanted, but I will wait a few more months for sure.

This kind of messages completely removes any GAS, so thanks @ak1 for the warning and honesty.

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Could you perhaps be more specific? I haven’t encountered any catastrophic bugs in 1.2.4 for my own use cases, so I am curious what you have stumbled upon.

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Same here, since 1.24 no problems at all

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So is it safe to buy now after these updates? It was kind of lack luster at launch.

So basically we have 2 built in synths?
Granular and Wavetable?can you load a modulated pad sound in the wavetable and scan it smoothly? Or is it made for single cycle waves mostly?

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No. They have plans for the wavetable engine, but no firm date.

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Got it. Will keep an eye open.

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While you keep your eye open, check the nanobox fireball, they ported the granular engine from the lemon drop and hinted they will do the same with the fireball.

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I have been running into the audio click/pop issue that the Blackbox also had for a bit before being fixed by firmware updates.

Anyone else out there running into this? I manage to get the noise down to a pretty low level, but it’s randomly present on sounds. No pattern or predictability.

Im no audio path expert on these music machines, but it seems like maybe it’s coming from the filter circuit. I’m sure 1010 will fix it, hopefully sooner than later.

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No such issue on my side, not even with the Blackbox ever during the last 5 years. The problem is that such phenomena can have many sources beyond the firmware: power, usb, audio signal and sd card. So if you find a way to reproduce the bug that you seem to observe, you should definitely address it with official support directly and not hope for someone at 1010 to find it in a forum post.

Did they really fix that problem?
That’s the only resason why i sold the blackbox. It wasn’t possible to loop for example a long pad sound without clicks at the loop point. No matter what i tried.

That’s also holding me back from getting a Bento. I couldn’t get a clear answer so far if the loop point click issue is totally fixed right now.
The users i asked said they haven’t heard clicks but they also didn’t use samples that have a steady level from start to end of the loop.

I am a pretty new user but I am not experiencing noise, clicks or pops.

I am pretty darn happy overall with the Bento. I am glad it is keeping GAS down for other, more expensive boxes. I have been powering up old iPads and grabbing things I recorded or sequenced on there. I am having a ton of fun mining through this and grabbing cool bits and making new jams with mostly my own source material.

I had a cool jam session with my main local synth buddy last weekend and we had a blast. I was doing beats, bass lines, atmosphere samples and then he was grabbing stuff from me/the bento and processing it through his s-4 and he played a little keys too. He commented on how great it sounds and how fun the clip launching/jamming was.

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I’m starting to warm up to this one.

Being a blackbox user since its launch 2019 - is there anything the blackbox can do, the Bento can’t? I’ve grown quite fond of the blackbox song mode, master eq and compressor, and I’m just assuming as far as sequencing goes, the bento is at least as polyrythmic crazy as the blackbox is, both in terms of launching independent sequences and their individual lengths and such things.

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Welcome back :heart:! If you started to make music again, that would be the best thing coming out of Bento so far.

Afaik the Blackbox could record stems, that’s one thing Bento can’t do.

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Several granular tracks (Bento is limited to one), even though BB’s CPU is limited.

Sequencing clips does not work on Bento, however, there is the launcher.

Being smaller is another thing that BB is better at.

Song mode may be more fleshed out on BB (max number of scenes) but Bento’s has other advantages.

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Ah thank you that’s so nice of you to say :slight_smile: makes me all warm and fluffy :sunny:

Okay, maybe it’s not time yet, or perhaps I should dig out the blackbox again and just get back to that.

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