Tips for using A4 as drummachine in a liveset

on kick patches…
I havent heard a single one that came anywhere near to my tanzbar, but I found a few really good ones in the last free pack from elektron:
https://www.elektron.se/soundpacks/paleofuturist/

also I just found some really promising stuff on kimura taro’s soundcloud account:

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I tried ot sequencing a4 multimap after reading a post from @sezare56 some weeks ago. Easy to set up, perfect for idm stuff. Especially with modulating midi ccs for performance macros

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I listened to many kick patches in context of my tracks yesterday. My favourites were in @darenager ‘s druma and especially in the drum enthusiast pack (i believe at least it was that).
Tanzbär kicks sound amazing I can imagine :upside_down_face:

I don‘t want to make it too complicated. I know that the a4 could go crazy complex,which i usually appreciate, but for this performance I‘d rather need a slightly pimped TR style thing…
Never owned a classic style drummachine. I used to chop breakbeats :slightly_smiling_face:

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The most important thing is that you make sure that you tune your instrument to 432 kHz.

If you need any help, ask @avantronica. He’s a pro at it and he’s always going on about how his music’s better after tuning it that way.

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I wish i could improvise only live. But you have to be very good at that, otherwise i can be a disaster quickly :joy:

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I have a free tanzbar pack in case u missed that… but if you want simple than just use the 4 tracks as is. for me the AK is the master, so all my other stuff is in ‘free run’ mode. the tanzbar has patterns and plocks as well but Im using it on a single pattern only most of the time. but I play techno… so it might be different for you

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btw… this liveset helped me immensely last year when I was struggling to come up with a flow that I like. if you listen to it/swipe through you can here how few sounds are used overall yet it somehow stay versatile enough through the whole hour.

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Be aware that when you change a pattern on the fly on the A4, switch to another pattern and back again, you cannot reload the original pattern (without reloading the complete project).

Save/Reload Pattern doesn’t work with the +drive, but operates in a kind of clipboard way (just in RAM) and switching to another pattern overwrites the state of the clipboard with the actual pattern state.

Either reload the pattern before switching to another one (not always a practical way) or make a temporary copy of the pattern and modify just the copy.

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IIRC there is a setting for kit change behavior when you change to a pattern with same kit :
Last state or save state or something like that.
No sure if it helps.

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My biggest tip for using A4 as a drum machine live is use a compressor! Those kicks are super dynamic and need to be tamed for amplification.

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Thanks. I read about that in a separate thread. Quite strange design choice…

For kits you can configure the change behavior and this works great. But for the pattern data itself there is sorrily no such option (but you can work around it with a temporary copy of the pattern).

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Yeah, quite strange. Especially since it seems to work differently on the Digitakt/Digitone. With these machines you can reload the pattern data even after switching around.

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hmm.
Either OT compressor on a thru track, or rather using a sample :slight_smile: ?
I have great sample packs, like driven machine drums, or some goldbaby and wave alchemy stuff, but most of them time I prefer drums coming directly from the A4 or Norddrum2. The more alive thing… Not sure if it’s better for a live gig? Maybe a sample is more reliable

Yeah I tried the digitakt, pattern reload works great for performances there

Analog Four deserves analogue compressor!
I have to test with my cheap Behringer Autocom, sure it can be very efficient. I used it with Jomox Xbase 09 kick with a bass amp and it was great.
Don’t understand why I still didn’t try it.

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no I won’t buy an analog compressor for that gig :wink:
also no tanzbär, although the thought came to my mind for a second :sweat_smile:

My biggest pro tip for A4 drums, especially when they’re all playing on a single track with sound locks, is to run them into the neighboring track via the “neighbor” setting on OSC2 and use the neighboring filter section as a tone shaper and the overdrive for a distortion/compression effect. If you haven’t tried this, you should. The overdrive circuit sounds much more aggressive when you’re feeding it with the output of a neighboring track’s VCA. This really sounds great on filter-based kicks which don’t typically benefit from the overdrive on their own track. This also benefits from the additional multimode filter which you can use to sculpt the sound further or control it live to make make fills, buildups, drops, etc.

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great tip! I’ll try

Totally! I noticed that too. I have an AH now so I’m not sure i’d use that routing.
It was for acid synth overdrive, and indeed it was more aggressive.

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