Project Lost : So Disappointed

1.30 or MKII ?
Any MKI users with lost projects in regular conditions ?

Indeed, good question sezare

I always “save project” before powering off, but as sezare56 mentioned, there is auto saving, and files are created.
I’ve never lost a project on the OT from power cycling.

func+project, yes yes

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Same here. I’ve never lost a project from power cycling either. I use all the save commands except “sync to card”, since I rarely take my CF card out.

Mostly saving at bank level and occasionally saving the whole project before powering off.

The closest I’ve come is having a bunch of record settings get changed in strange ways and some corrupted files on card after the OT was in the trunk (in its hard case) on a 90 mile drive in sub-zero degree weather, but a low level reformat of the card on a computer seems to have fixed that, everything has been fine for a month. I’ve never had issues with cold negatively affecting electronics before, only heat, so it took me by surprise.

EDIT: that seems like a CF thing rather than specifically an OT thing.

I’m a Mk1 user that lost the data in regular conditions. It was 1.30C. I link to a full description earlier in the thread.

Lost bank + pattern problem with another MKI, French Audiofanzine forum. I think his OS is 1.30C.

I’m kinda opposite…

I have my main project and all of its parts saved exactly how I want them. When I’m jamming and experimenting I never save the parts or the project. I might go this way for a week or even a month or more powering on and off many times but never saving anything. I go nuts on the parts and use part reload often, sometimes project reload.

When I reach a point that I decide I want to integrate something I’ve been exploring into my project for good, I then reload the project and add to it just the exact things I need to make the new trick happen. I then save all the parts and the project. After this I go on exploring and not saving anything until it happens again that I want to add something fundamental to my project…

I’m a looper though so I’m not building all sorts of pattern progressions. I’m more going nuts tweaking all sorts of stuff live and then wanting to reload and get back to my starting point to do it all over again…

@apmbpm Sorry to hear this… If it’s any reassurance I’ll say that I’ve never lost anything that was the OT’s fault, a couple times I’ve lost stuff but it was because of something I did. Still sucks but I’m just saying there’s a good chance you hit the panic button on accident and it wasn’t the OT that just randomly lost it…

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Yeah, I’m trying to convince myself it was a button press or something; in not sure it was though.

This mk2 replaced my previous one which I sent to Elektron due to interface issues. I’ve had a couple of peculiar moments with this one! I don’t want to send this one back too.

I’m keeping a close eye on it and will raise a ticket if anything else weird happens.

:roll_eyes:

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Yeah, reading that again the whole project being empty does seem pretty bad, I guess I don’t know how that could happen unless you changed the project which would be pretty hard to forget… I’d be careful and if needed backup stuff you think is important before you power down until you know if the hardware’s OK. Maybe it’s the battery connection or something like that…

On another note, the one that’s gotten me most on accident is function+cue to reload part. Few times I’ve hit that without noticing or looking even and then all the sudden I’m trying to figure out why everything is different… :smile:

Edit: probably just saving project is good enough when I said backup…

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Saving everything is of course important, but this can also be a CF card problem.
So I’d get another one if I were you, just in case.

And backup the CF card every now and then is a good idea.
Maybe with a versioning system if you’re really into it (if you’re on MacOS, Time machine should work I guess).
Now that I think of it, I should do it :smiley:

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Yeah, just to reiterate that you don’t need to save things constantly on the OT. the only thing you should lose between power cycles is your recording buffers.

The only time I’ve lost work was before i fully understood the sample slot/pattern/bank/part stack, and re-used sample slots and parts in other patterns.

edit: +1 on trying a different CF card as LD mentioned above.

Yeah, I thought the Octatrack would recall it’s last state too; other than the buffers of course.
As mentioned, I lack a little bit of confidence in the machine following the strange behaviours it has elicited in recent weeks.
I’m really hoping it will settle and future updates make it even more reliable.

screw it i am so staying on 1.25e :rofl:

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Only the most recently saved part gets preserved in the buffer

:thinking: hmmm… Parts will remain after a power cycle… You don’t even ever have to save them…

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Apparently there’s something weird with parts saving, found this thread but I can’t really make sense of it:

Not done this with mine but I think now is the time. I take it you just copy and paste the whole CF to your hdd on PC.

Yep.
If you want to do it again month later, using a versioning system might save you some work ^^

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Ha. I remember pinning that down. Just read it through again and pretty sure it’s all correct. Not a bug or anything just a behaviour which won’t suit everyone.

The takeaways have already been covered in this thread - It’s like

@sezare56 replying to @jshell above (=part reloading can be activated easily by accident, losing your current settings :frowning: )

vs.

Someone like @Open_Mike who is looping and tweaking but wants to return to a certain state sometimes :slight_smile:

None of this explains your lost stuff though! Sorry to hear it & if I had any useful thoughts i would have waded in before!