I enjoy “wishes” that can be granted by reading the manual. 
3 Likes
scale mode (wit the selection of scales, or it can use the one from the arp menu) for triggers, especialy in midi mode, whe triggers are too wide apart for being able to play musicaly…
yeah! no matter what, just update!! 
http://www.elektronauts.com/t/os-update-voting-results/3654/30362
which wish is which?
As such.
I just want some way to play/preview an individual p-locked trig without playing the whole pattern.
Eg. If I want to change the pitch on step 8, I can just hold step 8 and hit X(whatever) button to hear that individual trig with its p-locked settings. Instead off having to wait for it to go round to hear it each time. (As mentioned Sample Trig Preview )
I find this extremely annoying with pitch and filter mods. I know there are workarounds but this activity (waiting, adjusting, waiting, adjusting x 10000), wastes more time than anything else I do on the OT. Maybe I’m missing some thing…
Also rate beyond 1 would be very useful to me.
1 Like
-
yes i understand that some of these are a matter of what one finds important, well, I want to be able to fine tune stuff, and I want to be able hear that right away, not with some LFO work around - I like the work arounds, creativity, but just getting a sample in tune should be more straight forward - so, right now you can tune in steps of 0.2 , why not make it 0.02 and when you press value pot it does 0.2 ----- > Allerian this is NOT in the manual, please show me where.
i hear you about pitching up so much must sound horrible, but it doesn’t on SCWF. And it might sound horrible, i still would like to have the option to go as high as i wanna go.
“6. no, please don’t. p-locks are fine for this… your request would mean the slot list gets mangled everytime you change a pattern.”
Thanks for bringing this one up - I hadn’t thought of the downsides of this idea (someone posted a petition about it as well)
There must be a reason why Elektron choose a structure of Pattern/parts
All that said, my main point is, we do need a bit of an update, and since the forum again got crowded with all sorts of “analogue” posts, i thought we could at least mention what we feel could be improved.
OF course with some thinking, everything is possible already - like someone said he wants delay and reverb possible in one track, which are now both “Effect 2” - you would need to sacrifice another track to get it done.
I want to emphasize one more time, that the Octa is tailored to pitch down - With rate you can go down in tempo, but not up. With pitch, you can only go up one octave. It’s not enough for the things I like to do. I can go down as much as I want, but I can’t go up, from the playback page.
For example use SCWF and have the sample spread over 88 keys , instead of 24, and use the octa as a synth.
The engine is there, why restrict it ? Maybe there’s some reason for it that I don’t know.
MIDI scenes: I mean the same functionality as the A4 on the MIDI sequencer - thus setting P-locked CC data and having smooth transitions between the different P-locked trigs by means of Parameter slides.
Yes, you can do a lot with LFOs, but it would a nice functionality.
Thanks for bringing this one up - I hadn’t thought of the downsides of this idea (someone posted a petition about it as well)
There must be a reason why Elektron choose a structure of Pattern/parts[/quote]
Memory / performance limitations most likely. Though I don’t know why they won’t / haven’t provided an option to allow the ability of Kit style sample arrangments, at the expense of Parts… the reality is Parts confuse some, are useless to others, and good for some.
I would imagine traditional Kits, with a lot more limitations then a Part, would be an easier concept/usage for most people to grasp.
Delay and Reverb are the two most processor intensive effects, no? Which basically translates to the OT doesn’t have enough horsepower in the engine to run a Delay/Reverb effects chain, definitely not across eight track simultenously.
MIDI scenes: I mean the same functionality as the A4 on the MIDI sequencer - thus setting P-locked CC data and having smooth transitions between the different P-locked trigs by means of Parameter slides.
Yes, you can do a lot with LFOs, but it would a nice functionality.[/quote]
Elektron have stated multiple times that this (Midi Scenes) are not possible and won’t be implemented.
Really they are scared about either the amount of processing the OT can handle, or the amount of midi data potentially being sent and causing midi chokes, hanging notes etc on the receiveng gear and screwing up your midi stream, still, where theres a will theres a way.
a sample start finetune parameter that scans ± 64 divisions or + 128 in between the existing coarse start points currently available… i need this so much longer samples are able to be accurately scanned for the perfect point without having to use the waveform editor.
± microtiming nudge for all trigs on the midimachines per track, like an offset to correct latency in the sound module/synth without having to copy and paste every trig.
thats all i want… for now!
"Elektron have stated multiple times that this (Midi Scenes) are not possible and won’t be implemented.
Really they are scared about either the amount of processing the OT can handle, or the amount of midi data potentially being sent and causing midi chokes, hanging notes etc on the receiveng gear and screwing up your midi stream, still, where theres a will theres a way."
i wasn’t suggesting MIDI scenes, i was merely suggesting that , since the OCTA can learn MIDI CC data control, and you can tweak that and P-lock that from the MIDI sequencer, AND you can use LFO on it, I would think it must be possible to handle at least some filter sweeps via MIDI.
LFO after all, also sends the same amount of MIDI data through the ports.
And an Atari with Cubase from 1987, can also send MIDI CC data over time and does’nt crash over 8 midi tracks with some CCed data going on… its not that much is it ?
A litmus test would be to p-lock continuous 16th notes/32nd notes for all 10 midi cc/pitch/velocity/chord/arp/aftertouch/lfo parameters on all 8 midi tracks to 8 different external devices at a high bpm and see if it falls over. A midi scene change could send hardly more data than that.
Another feature I would like is a additional bank of 128 static sample slots per project, instantly swappable with bank “A”, or if not that, then at least double the static sample slots to 256.
Midi scenes are doable, and doable without crashing/choking it all.
It looks like Elektron prefers to err on the side of implementing features only if they can be made to work really well. MIDI crossfader scenes could potentially generate a lot of CC messages making the result much less smooth than the internal handling. They probably felt it did not work well enough and decided it was best left out.
But, still I wonder: aren’t the LFOs sending just as much CCs?
The LFOs control a limited number of CCs and the rate at which the values update can be limited since it’s a cyclic change. With the crossfader you have to update much more often to track fast movements precisely.
Again, it can be done but it wouldn’t be as immediate as on the internal engine.
of course they are.
it’s lame that you can’t do Parameter Slides in the MIDI sequencer. LFO’s are also ‘slides’ in MIDI CC data, so why not have it at our fingertips?
open a filter or any CC exactly programmed as you want it, from any trig in the sequencer.
it will make the Octa a much better MIDI sequencer, in my world.
Two wishes. 1 easy to implement and 1 not so easy.
Easy:
Copy settings at crossfader position to new Scene. I often find a sweet spot between two Scenes - it would be fantastic if there was a way to set this as a new Scene.
Not so easy:
A new ‘machine’. It would control the sequencer. You could plock trigs to reverse the direction of play, change tempo, set loop points, jump between patterns based on a probability. It could be restricted to Track 8 as a variation on the Master FX. (Is there something like this on one of the other Elektron Machines?)
1 Like
I’m still a beginner with this thing so caveat emptor. If these things can be done and I don’t know about it let me know
-More built in support for sample chains…
- eg: autoslicing based on filename, converting folders to chains, turning on slice mode on a track after I’ve sliced the sample, etc
-Drum mode in the sequencer?
-Metasequences which can alter other sequences for like transposition for example
-Macro recording? Eg combine repetive steps into single steps
-Still don’t really love any of the reverbs, personally
-Let me have master fx without wasting a track since it only has 8 tracks to begin with
-And/or post mute fx
-Basically any update would be good