Novation // Circuit

The Midi implementation leaves some room for hope… the delays have the usual parameters like feedback and Sync, so it should be possible to set the delay settings from a DAW and save them into the session. Have not found the right tool for this yet, though.

Any ideas?

K

Have a circuit for sale if anyone needs a second one :slight_smile: x

The parameters are accessible via NRPN, which I managed to set up using a pd patch so I could use my quneo with it. The delay setting is weird though. It doesn’t seem to behave as the MIDI implementation describes. It’d be nice if they made it a bit more tweakable in a future OS update.

Hi there,

I have a Circuit now to keep my Rytm some company, but I have to admit that there are some things I still have to get my head around. Anyone can share some tipps on these:

  • How do you combine Circuit and Rytm anyway? Does the Circuit cover certain synth sounds and the Rytm does the drumming, or do you prefer to mix, e.g., Kick from Circuit, Pad from Circuit, the rest Rytm?

  • In that sound editor from Isotonic, there are parameters with two circles around (e.g., Waveform). Why are these there and how can I change them?

  • Is there a way to modulate or change the waveform within a wavetable OSC? There does not seem to be an actual method to modulate the waves that are used, even though there seems to be many waveforms in some tables

  • Any crazy ideas how to make these two machines work together, e.g., Circuit into Audio in, Circuit into Rytm Audio path via Overbridge, Rytm samples into Circuit…

Would like to hear some seasoned advice,

K

I use the synth engine mainly, and created some custom wav files (FX) which i loaded into the circuit,i use a mixer (Qu PAC) as the RYTM audio input is not that usable. (no gain adjust.)

I found that the circuit often sounds too bright in comparison to the analog engines, so i filter out some highs from the circuit with the master knob. (But still leave breathing room.)

I reorganized the circuits controls so i can adjust the amp envelope and filter with certain knobs which are identical on each patch, i like to keep it organized. The try to find out approach can work, but i like to have more control. So i have certain knobs for general sound shaping, and some which are always modulation increase of the sound on the circuit macro knobs.

My advice is: create custom samples and patches on the circuit to really make it your own. I did some serum vst sounds which i loaded into the circuit.

Also the advice is: keep it minimal, the circuit (and rytm) can do so much on its own, if you combine the machines, use it sparse.

Pretty nice Jam here:

I just think that most live sets, create to few variations, most often you get enthralled into your pattern, that you stay to long on one melody /rytm. I fail for this often myself. So think about your transitions. (No i don’t want to criticize the video.)

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Exactly! There are some basics you want to control, like Amp Decay, Filter, Resonance, Filter env depth, and the Circuit has some really strange choices on some patches, sou you have to guess your way around…

By reorganizing, you mean reprogramming the macros, right?

Thanks for the detailed answer…

Karsten

for those interested in “forbidden” continuation of the Novation Circuit evolution story.
original link
https://global.novationmusic.com/the-evolution-of-circuit
blocked till image 7.
with a bit of inspect i give you almost all the images.
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https://d19ulaff0trnck.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/12-Bkg12_0.jpg - not working. so they knew someone would crack it
to see them all you have to do is replace both 07 with 08 and so on

It looks like the editor is now also available as a VST/AU device - that puts it into Overbridge territory, and I am seriously wondering if that doesn’t make the Novation Circuit one of the Digitakt competitors out there. Of course no audio via USB AFAIK, but given the limitations of the standard Overbridge vs premium, it still seems like a viable alternative (for me personally, considering I could find a 2nd hand Circuit for ~AUD350 vs. approximately AUD1100 for a Digitakt).

Edit: Just realised that I forgot to paste in the link to the isotonik site: https://isotonikstudios.com/novation-x-isotonik/circuit-editor-vst-au/

I guess it depends on what you want to do. No doubt Digitakt will have a ton of sample manipulation options not present in the Circuit (which, imo, is pretty disappointing for samples, even compared to 1st-gen grooveboxes like the ES-1), but the Circuit will always have the awesome synth engine to make it worth the money.

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I had a Circuit for a year, and made quite a few tracks with it. In term of getting shit done and putting it together, it’s one of the most rewarding instruments I’ve owned.

But it has to be said, and I’ve said it in this thread before - the Circuit will eventually fade for ayone who sticks with it long enough, due to its lack of sonical depth. I don’t refer to its editing capabilities - it’s quite flexible. But it just doesn’t reach that far, even when you push it. It’s a great piece of kit, certainly for the price.

But I would guess that the DigiTakt will just keep on surprising you, long after the Circuit’s shown all its tricks and even presented its encore. That’s the thing about Elektron - there’s probably an end to the depth of their instruments, but no one’s found it yet.

I agree with the ES-1 sentiment as well. That’s also a box that just keeps on giving, way beyond it’s going rate today and its meager feature set. It’s the combo of all these things that make it killer.

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I had a circuit but sold it. Thought it was fun and instantly playable but i hated how you needed to connect to editor to get the best out of it. If it had a basic screen and bit of diving to access synth parameters I’d have kept it.

Can’t really compare it to digitakt as for starters it doesn’t sample. 8 sample tracks Vs 2 and 8 midi tracks Vs 2.

Circuit seemed great for wanting to quickly knock things together and it’s support is amazing along with its constant development and updates. As a product it’s head and shoulders above a lot of others for those reasons but just didn’t suit my needs.

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Some really interesting comments here - it actually makes me even more curious about the Circuit!

For those of you adverse to logging into the cloud solution or having to login using Facebook, Novation have now created a stand alone solution.
https://global.novationmusic.com/circuit-components

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yep! finally.

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Be sure to check our Shawn Rudiman’s sample pack! He has a ridiculous amount of gear that he’s sampled and processed.

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This is the gift that keeps on giving.

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Anyone think this component update is a prelude to the Circuit Pro rumoured to be around the corner. Seems likely given the Superbooth 2017 rumours.

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I certainly think so. Checking out the Deluge, there’s obviously a lot you can do with a grid interface in a compact, battery-powered package. That’s basically what the Circuit Pro could be.

But at the same time, I don’t think Novation will release something that’s like Circuit, only better. It’s such a landmark piece for them, they want to keep it around for a long time, just to further underline its influence.

I’d say they’re expanding on the family, rather. A sampler version, perhaps an entire line-up of family products, or potentially a keyboard-oriented beast with strong inspiration from the Circuit’s workflow, but more like a compact workstation for the keyboard players (or so I wish :slight_smile:

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A decent screen on Deluge & Circuit, would add a ton of functionality.
Intuitive UI with no screen is ok, for a limited machine. But with a more expensive product, a decent screen to reach more menus and options is a must have IMO. I am a person who needs feedback in that sense. Like a Push 2 standalone is what we are talking here.

For instance, I love my OP-1 because it gives me such good visual feedback and is inspiring at the same time.

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Oh cool, Id really love a circuit pro. The original is such fun and so inspirational in use.

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