If you find it tedious on the MD itâs not really going to be any different on another Elektron machine. The workflow is straight up different to Ableton.
You kind of have to accept that. Any of the machines will be rewarding to you, you just have to be willing to put in the time to learn them like you did with Ableton.
Thanks Peter.
Basically, I really like the sound of both md/mnm and for health reason, canât do too much computer:(
Abletonâs great, but for me, I seem to spend way too much time just choosing vstiâsâŚ
the monoâs song mode is relatively easy to use. I find there are two ways i approach putting together a song on the mono. first way, i construct a handful of sequences and then arrange them using song mode to add bpm changes, offsets, and mutes. the second way i approach is to string a bunch of empty sequences together with song mode, create a kit, hit live record and go to town.
first way is more productive, second way is more fun, both have given me complete results in the form of songs and complete live sets.
also, the monomachine can sequence six tracks of midi, that can also have mutes programed in song mode, making it easy to incorporate another synth or two into the set-up
Forget song mode for a minute : you can operate MM with mutes to get a full track.
I did this little track out of one MM pattern only when I got mine.
You can set a track to follow another one, but play on its own when the master track is mute. Handy for chorus / verse structure 
This box is so full of tricks, might be the one that offers the largest ground to dig amongst 
machinesâŚ
I love it !
You can easily make a whole track on the MM. The thing you might struggle with is drums, unless youâre happy with the sound of the BBOX drum kit. It can synthesise great individual drum sounds but that will often take up a track for each sound. But if you have an MD to pair it with then you really are set. Listen to the stuff people made for the Silver Souls compilation, all MM & MD with no external effects. My track was done in song mode on the two devices, I just pressed play and recorded it.
Here is a link towards the thread and the track 
Thanks, I was on my phone and waiting to get into the office to add a link to the album. 
Whole finished & mastered thing:
I have done solo Monomachine stuff in the past, I was trying to find something recorded but I think all I have is this youtube jam that was recorded too quiet (the Roland Go:Mixer I had was faulty and clipped at really low volumes):
Actually this track, also from the Silver Souls comp, is the don of solo MM - forgot @BUROMASCHINEN posted it on YT.
I almost forgot it !!!
Monomachine can sing !!!
Ainât this THE track fitting this thread ?
Although âfairly easyâ was mentioned, right⌠I reckon 
is a machine that deserves some homework before reaching such level.
Thanks for feedbacks, cool links.
Making music is one thing, but playing live is pain when tracks are all finished in computer. Thatâs also another reason. Ideally, Iâd just have MD and MM.
Never really thought about the song mode on the A4. How is it not as flexible?
I had a live set earlier this year that was pretty much just Machinedrum and Monomachine. I did have them routed through the Octatrack as a mixer and using the OT to do a little bit of live sampling that I would cross-fade in to get some glitchy sounds to replace the fourth bar of a Machinedrum pattern. But it was essentially all 
and .
I just set âsongsâ up in banks - first song was all in bank A, second song all in bank B, so that both devices matched fairly close. You can set all of the Elektrons to send program changes to each other (so that playing pattern B7 on would also play pattern B7 on , and you can use this with âsong modeâ to just arrange the patterns on only one device if you really want). I havenât done that yet, personally, since my patterns didnât always match between the two.
So my live performance aspect was primarily triggering patterns / pattern chains between the two silver machines, with a little bit of use of muting and knob twisting and hitting âreload kitâ a lot when the sounds had strayed a bit too far from home.
Hey Finalform!
Thanks for the props!
@jshell I usually do it like youâre saying: MNM, MD, and A4 have the same pattern bank positions so I can write a song on the mnm (master clock/prchange/transport + cc via midi tracks on some outboard effects) and everything is in sync. I recently added my mc-202 thru a4 cv out and works like a charm: one MNM sequence to rule them all
Woah, thanks Jshell. Right now I donât all grasp it, I am not so great wth technical terminology, but hopefully I get MM and try this. I started out with groove boxes and Md is making workflow so much faster/ fun like my pre computer days. Canât wait to get my hands on Mm.
ou, iâve had the mnm for a long time and never thought about using song mode like this, thanks for the suggestion!
i typically go about making a track using song mode on the mnm using a handful of similar patterns and just mess with offsets/looping/repeats to change it upâŚi love chopping up patterns using offsets creating completely different patterns.
In the MM and MD, each song row can be assigned:
On the AF/AK, each row can be a chain and can be transposed, but the offset, length, and tempo cannot be set per row.
It sounds like what youâd like to do is not to perform solo MnM tracks, but more specifically to compose using MD+MnM so you can perform live with those two pieces of hardware. The short answer is, yes you can. Lots of musicians used this setup to great effect back in the days when they were Elektronâs two main production instruments.
As previous posters have said, the approach is different from Ableton, but if youâre getting used to the MD already you shouldnât have much trouble with the MnM, whose sequencer took the MDâs capabilities as a starting point and expanded from there. It will not have some of the features the A4 has â microtiming comes to mind â so you should read up on both synthsâ feature sets.
Countless threads exist on ways to approach these two instruments, so I wonât get into that here. Just keep in mind that both are made to be highly flexible in terms of setup. Sometimes it can take awhile to understand all that they can do before you realize what you actually want them to do. Be patient and enjoy integrating them, which is something I think Iâm finally OK at after several years of effort.
RaMonoMachine
Dee Dee RaMono = SID 6581
Joey RaMono = VO-6
Johnny RaMono = SWAVE-ENS + DPRO-DENS
Tommy RaMono = DPRO-BBOX
all routed to: DYNAMIX
You got me 
it is a placeholder for me, really.
a long time ago i had my MonoMachine in 6XMONO mode and was externally routing all the separate outs into various guitar stompboxes.
i managed to make a fairly passable rendition of that song, back in the day (before kids).
it is a personal challenge.
i actually have ideas for different patterns that are mainly the same parts for the band, except for Johnny RaMonoâs guitar, which i want to switch out several machines to experiment with.