Ideas for a dedicated Elektron MIDI sequencer - and why

Hmm I have heard that Elektron have recently got investors in… This explains a lot and makes it even more unlikely that this MIDI sequencer will ever happen. The investors will be pushing for mass market appeal to compete with the likes of Roland, hence the rushed Digitakt/ Digitone and the obsession with Overbridge. They will probably not understand why a box that makes no sound will sell.
They don’t share Elektron’s original vision and will probably eventually sell out to the highest bidder … then it’ll all be iOS software because making hardware with real buttons and knobs and multiple analogue outputs is clearly not as profitable.
/doom&gloom

I originally bought the octatrack to use only as a MIDI sequencer. It’s still a pretty viable alternative for this, with true polyrhytm/polymetry, a kickass song mode and all the usual elektron perks like copy/pastes, offsets etc. Combine it with a MIDI processor like the bomebox or event processor plus (to get beyond certain limitations that 4 parts per bank causes) and you got yourselves quite a sequencing powerhouse.

Learning to love the audio side of OT has been a far longer process tbh

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Well, that sounds a bit more promising. If Elektron was pushed to compete with Behringer and Roland it would be the end of what they became loved for.

I wonder what the relationship with Arktos is… Elektron comes up with a concept that Arktos has to approve? Are the Arktos people themselves into making music with hardware? :smirk: or are they just grey businessmen in suits?

I don’t think elektron see behri as a competitor. Behringer is all about analog tech, most of their synths doesn’t even have presets or CC support, let alone digitally controlled sections & DSP. Not yet anyway.

personally I’m not interested in a dedicated midi sequencer but I would like to see in their future sequencers / updates to existing ones:

conditional locks (so a single trig can have multiple locks that play alternatively every passing in various ways).

p-locks be separate to the trigs so you can shift the locks forwards / backwards while trigs stay stationary.

forwards / backwards / pendulum etc functions for sequencer direction.

individual track speed divisions like on OT. [all elektron sequencers should have this one already imo. I wish for it every time I turn em on].

amongst other things.

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Well, they have the DeepMind… Maybe they are the ones to approach with this!

I know , I’m a bad man. :hushed:

Yea I had OT and loved the sequencer… but the rest of the machine is just too complex for me. I love my SP-16 and it’s 16 stereo tracks with 256mb of RAM and total UX flow is light years ahead of OT. But if Elektron creates standalone Midi sequencer, I will be able to use it with my SP-16 (which sadly has quite limited midi sequencer). It should be absolutely amazing DAWless setup then.

The OT MIDI sequencer is almost there but not quite… as was the MD sequencer. Elektron has the basic ingredients already!

Such a box would be very nice indeed but it isn’t going to come from Elektron…

Bridge Over Troubled Waters :disappointed_relieved:

I agree, most of the features are spread on several of their machines (OT, MD, DTone), and it is more about collating all this (refresh the features, and with some add-ons things) into a new box. I would be happy with 16 tracks and several (min 3) midi outs to limit daisy chaining. As form factor I would favor either the old boxes or the MKII, but not the Digitakt form factor (I don’t like having 16 steps on two lines IMHO).

Now the real question is: is there an adequate market demand for this midi dedicated box to make it a viable business case for Elektron? Not certain, but I am pretty sure they know already. This is why it could be an opportunity for a revamped AnalogKey mk2 (why not 8 voices) with a full fletched midi sequencer = making it the new flagship of Elektron.

An AK like this would be waayy too expensive. A desktop box with the price and features I described should be a winner (for the reasons I described). The Elektron name would bring it to the top.

Didn’t know the Carbon was open source, that’s cool. Is there any user activity in the way of custom patches or software for it?

If I was in the market for a standalone sequencer I’d probably go for Squarp Pyramid, Cirklon or Ableton Live. But after having used an Octatrack for ages it’s hard to envision using a sequencer that can’t also sample.

Also: off topic but I had to laugh when I saw that the duration of Nagualizer’s ban is 1000 years. Been mostly offline for a couple of weeks so not sure what the beef was, but ouch.

Nagulizer was also alexcase, posting from two accounts agreeing with himself from what I saw. Probably other stuff too

But on topic I think elektron would be shooting themselves in the foot by making a midi sequencer. Same reason I’ll never see an op-1 shaped midi keyboard

1000 years

The mod panel asks us to select a length of time for the suspension.
“Forever” defaults to 1,000 years. We don’t choose 1,000 years specifically, it’s just what the software equates to “forever”.

Previous versions would only allow us to do “up to 99,999” days.

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I prefer it this way. Banishment, for 1000 years

Sounds more dramatic

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As mods, we prefer..

everyone follow the guidelines and help us to make this a more inviting place. Most people do, fortunately. Suspensions do not feel good. It requires a lot of our time to even come to the conclusion that a warning is in order, and much more so for a suspension.


Back on topic, I wonder if Elektron has it in them to go for a dedicated sequencer. Now with DN and DT and OT sporting MIDI sequencers with trig conditions, it seems like, even for Elektron, a dedicated sequencer would be an incredibly niche product.

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Agreed. Perhaps more importantly, I don’t think a standalone sequencer would be a sufficiently fun product for Elektron to build.

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I agree

If they added a few more features, and kept it around 600, I think they could dip into buyers looking for something like a cirklon who don’t have thousands to spend. Still seems niche though.

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