Feature requests: Internal “re”sampling

Can’t you yet send samples over overbridge
ReSample ar into daw via overbridge
Load quickly into at via usb
Surely the ar sample transfer issue had been solved?
Right?

Sure, but it would be nice to do this standalone.

i cant drag and drop samples into the plugin - this still doesnt work. so its not an actual resampling workaround. this was something i expected to already work after all these years i havent used the Rytm - but just yesterday as i completed my next Jam on the Rytm i noticed that this isnt working ^^ after all these years … :slight_smile:

anyway … as “t” already said: it should be possible on the hardware itself. that would be real resampling :slight_smile: if - however - i could at least drag and drop samples from Live onto the plugin and have them transfered to the Rytm that way i would already be happy. makes life easier WHEN you have a computer at hand.

you are kidding!!!

elektron still has not implemented a drop and drag feature for the AR…

well as we say here: well i’ll be fucked!

i havent followed all the information in the last couple months/years as i wasnt using the Rytm for 2 years :slight_smile: Back at the time as OB was announced however they said that this feature will come in a future update. So i just assumed its already there :smile:

neverthless … im barely using samples on the Rytm because if i want to use samples i could as well grab the octatrack. but i come from good old MD UW times and it was such a breeze to layer sounds from the internal synthesis, modify them and then just simply resample them into a RAM machine and instantly use them as a new single sample :slight_smile: this would make SOOOO MUCH sense on the Rytm as sound design is still possible here - although limited compared to the MD it is still possible and it would make life so much easier …

yeah in short: WE NEED (RE)SAMPLING ON THE RYTM !!!:smile_cat:

Sorry to have to say this, but this is not possible due to limitations in the hardware. The Rytm was never designed with internal re-sampling in mind.

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I’m assuming this has to do with insufficient memory bandwidth between where the A/D conversion happens and where a sample buffer would have to be stored? In other words; what’s available there is sufficient to buffer the signal for Overbridge and to enable the effects, but not sufficient to allow for practical re-sampling?

asked myself the same right now :slight_smile: i dunno how OB tech is designed but should i mention how much memory the MD UW had? :wink: you basically need RAM to (re)sample as a buffer until you save it somewhere. i cannot imagine that the Rytm doesnt have that available …

The RYTM probably has tons of memory available; that in itself is not the problem.

The problem is that you must be able to move the data you’re recording into that memory in such a way that 1. the processor doesn’t have to do too much work (because otherwise there won’t be enough processing capacity free to keep whatever you’re trying to re-sample playing), or 2. there’s sufficient bandwidth between the processor and the memory to simultaneously read from and write to it (because otherwise sample playback won’t work properly when you’re trying to re-sample).

makes sense. but processing power shouldnt be a problem, since the internal effects are of pretty high quality and they therefore need some processing power anyway. bandwidth … ok, im not an expert here, i slightly know how this works on a computer (classic front side bus connection or direct lane access through the CPU) but i dont think that there isnt enough bandwidth to handle basic I/O ops. and as you said earlier - overbridge works as well. addressing the USB bus needs the processor as well and there are a lot of audio streams running through the processor if you want - and it can handle it. so i really only see a possible bottleneck when OB is used, internal effects are heavily used AND you would additionally resample - all at the same time. if you think about it though … a consumer not aware of such things would easily be pissed if he couldnt (re)sample while the rytm is running in OB mode and the effects are all used … prolly the reason why we might not get this functionality?!

well, tech talk aside - i still hope that this will come one day. they surprised us with the A4’s poly OS; there might be another surprise coming to the rytm and what could be better than internal (re)sampling? :smiley:

I know it’s not resampling per se…

bu you could kludge a “live audio looper” by setting up a scene which sets the delay send on all voices at 100, with the delay engine’s feedback setting at 100 (a perfect loop), then the next scene will turn the volume and delay sends off on all 8 voices and let the delay engine ring out in a perfect loop…

then you could have a couple more scenes which changed the delay time to rhythmic divisions of the BPM…

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If @Ess says it’s not possible, then it’s not possible. How much more official do you need it to get? :smile:

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i need a response from EVERY SINGLE employee at Elektron before i believe this !!:grin:

nah, just kiddin. but i can dream, can i? :wink:

I would love re-sampling in the RYTM.

I would love stereo samples in the RYTM.

I would love more info than … its not possible due to hardware limitations.

Please educate your userbase Elektron :smile: :smile: :smile:

Not going to happen. Can’t happen.

Can anyone explain what would stop MKI having resampling? What is the limitation? Or is it only just because Elektron can sell more MKIIs?

I read that they changed the input to be able to be used but if it’s internal resampling that’s just a firmware update.

No ADC inputs on the mk1, Avantronica reply a couple of times on that subject…

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That’s for external sampling using the input. What about the internal resampling?

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^ This. My only reason for me to update (spending around 700 euros in the process) is internal resampling, and I wonder if that could be done via software update. One can only dream :sweat_smile:

Yeah, I kind of get it that for a lot of buyers it might be a selling point (apart from the updated external things) but just trying to wrap my head around, if it’s possible then why omit it, the input on MKI is basically useless at the moment, so having internal resampling would be really nice and could lead to interesting results.