Digitone issues

I feel sorry for you, but I didn‘t find any bugs at all in four months of using it.

3 Likes

all this has nothing to do with bugs or wrong advertisement

5 Likes

If it’s truly random, these things will happen in short term samples (e.g. 6 bars), but over a longer time period it’ll balance out. It’s just how randomness works.

5 Likes

That’s how probability works…

16 Likes
  1. If you flip a coin 10 times there is a strong possibility that you’ll get half heads an half tails. There is also a possibility that you get heads 10 times. This is what possibilities are. If you want a trig condition to happen every single time without fail, you can set it to “every two bars” or “every four bars” or whatever it is.

  2. Purple LED is a feature. Read the manual.

  3. I don’t know what you mean by this.

  4. Nope, no song mode. You should’ve known that before you bought the equipment. I agree it seems weird and frankly it’s one of the things that’s kept me from buying one.

  5. The sequencer really isn’t that different. If you understand one Elektron machine you can get along fairly well with all of them, just with some minor adjustments and a little reading of the manual.

It seems to me that maybe you’re not grasping some of the quirks and features of the Digitone. Take a step back, ask yourself if something is really a bug and try and figure it out. Or come here and ask for help. I don’t own a DN so I can’t tell you what’s going on with some of your other complaints, but based off the ones I did address they’re not actually bugs just a lack of understanding. Open your mind and read the manual.

6 Likes

2 posts were split to a new topic: Bickering

could be voice stealing if you use more than 8 notes simultaneously

2 Likes

Now would be a great time to familiarize ourselves with the forum guidelines.

namely:

Be Agreeable, Even When You Disagree
You may wish to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But, remember to criticize ideas, not people. Please avoid:

Name-calling.
Ad hominem attacks.
Responding to a post’s tone instead of its actual content.
Knee-jerk contradiction.
Instead, provide reasoned counter-arguments that improve the conversation.

6 Likes

sorry you’re having problems.

digitone is my favourite elektron, and imo compared to most of their units was remarkably stable and featured on release. personally I’ve had no problems with it since 1.02.

3 Likes

If I said something wrong I apologize, sorry!
Digitone is very nice sound that’s why I bought it but…

The clicks go away sometimes, I encounter them randomly!
The synth sometimes doesn’t work normal and after powercycling it works again normal?)

SO nowadays everyone needs to be doing research before buying anything??? GOing to forums of all kinds of products we will encounter all kinds of problems cause we live in a mass consumption world but that doens’t mean a product needs to be unfinished!

The seller in the store said overbridge worked, mentioned on the box is overbrigde enabled!

With audio in I thought filtering 2 like in A4

It seems like you’re having problems with the engine more than encoutinering actual bugs. The clicking usually comes from voice stealing or attack settings being set to short on the amp envelope. I’ve had mine for almost a year and have learned that the engine is not as forgiving as some of the others because it’s a lot more flexible than some of the other machines it means there’s more area not in the “sweet spot” the lfo issues, check to make sure your lfo fade out parameter is set to 0 so as not to remove the lfo depth over time. If you’re set to free running after having the lfo triggered and faded the lfo will fade and not come back. Again not really a bug but an unclear part of the engine behavior. This isn’t to dismiss some of the real issues (the freezes when going wild on parameters after they’ve been p-locked) or the dsp boot error from which seems to be more a hardware batch issue than a design “beta” but they’re real issues for sure. Your problems don’t seem to be those though.

2 Likes

I don’t have a Digitone; never even seen one, so don’t have a cat in this race.

As far as Trig Conditions go, and like @GirTheRobot said; you are using 50% probability of the trig playing.

So on each pass / playthrough; it has a 50% chance of being on or off. Which could end up being who knows how often? Flip a coin in the air 10 times and see if it is always repeating a pattern of Heads / Tails / Heads / Tails etc.

If you want to play the trig only every second bar; then you do not want to use a 50% probability; but a 1:2 setting, so play the first time, but not the second time. This, to use another analogy would be like flipping the coin over manually; it will always be Heads / Tails / Heads / Tails etc.

Have a look at the manual, there should be a list of all the different Trig Conditions, and maybe spend half an hour checking them all out on their own, and getting a good grip on what they do; and how/when they may occur.

Again, I don’t own a Digitone; so this is just based off an edumacated guess, and experience with the Octatrack and Analog Rytm.

Hope that helps.

4 Likes

OKAY I understand the trig condition now thx for the answers,

I do understand how lfo works, but parameters of the fade seem to have changed on all the blank patterns now??? That was not when I used it first day?

I would like to see on other digitones how the LFO settings on all the pages are for starting with a blank pattern,

On a empty pattern the lfo fade settings are different then when I have used it first day!

SO freezing (I mean knobs that don’t work) but after powercycling they do work that’s not encountered by every users?

Never had a freeze on mine and never needed to power cycle.
Your unit could be defective. Can you return to store for another new unit?

2 Likes

@Adam Jay, thanks that’s what I really wanted to hear, now I do know for sure that your unit does not freeze , mine did 2 or 3 times in the 5days of ownership, I’m sure it’s a faulty one

‘unclear part of engine behaviour’ thats why Elektron manuals are so (how do you call it) sparse with info?

Going to do some other test tonight and probably bring it back to the store

that is simply not a feature of the digitone

That’s sad and I think there is a general consensus, that the whole OB ready marketing was a big failure and very misleading

me neither

It’s just also weird that it’s called audio in, then again it should be called mix in like on most other instruments, anyway they maybe could give us that feature in an update i guess.

thx unifono about the freeze, so digitone is going back to store…

Returning it is better. You probably got a faulty unit, mine has never frozen during operation although I have gotten the DSP boot failure when turning it on.
For the rest of the stuff, always skim the manual before buying something so you’ll save some headaches later.

2 Likes

@astricii Thanks a lot for your info, ABOUT CLICKS=Further testing makes it clear for me that the AMP is the biggest problem, for lots of sounds you can not set Attack 0 to 5, or the Release to 0-5, then it clicks. Then again it clicks even more if you set an LFO to free running on top of these settings. Also the Phase retrig gives clicks in the off position which I think is normal. But the AMP is NOT NORMAL. This can’t be the nature I guess?

About LFO’s when the machine was doing weird, after I got out of my first freeze, the encoders were doing nothing on the page, I noticed the LFO fade parameters were both at -64 in all empty patterns to start with, now they are at 0 within all blank patterns. So within a freeze something changes within the settings!

ABOUT FREEZING: so you confirm freezes when going wild on parameters after plocking, I remember having 3 tracks full of soundlocks, plocking, doing some CTRL ALL it went into freeze so this must be a BUG?

ABOUT CLICKS IN PRESETS = There are some nice patterns (presets) which sound superb but checking all the AMP settings of the sounds and muting one by one i found some sounds have also a click in it because amp is set under 5! So why would some decent sounddesigner make a nice drone bass with an audible click in it which you can hear if you use the sound alone but with four tracks going you don’t hear it of course? So in ambient setting the drone is a bad preset!
So all the clickpreset sounds I can get rid of that click by resaving them with better AMP settings!
In my opinion this is very bad coding of the AMP and not the ‘behaviour of the synth’ or the ‘nature of the envelopes’!